With the recent rebalances to Leadership, the launching of the Xbox version of the game and various other changes directly affecting the economy which will, in a sense, "reset" several aspects of the game, I wonder if you guys have been thinking about this. It's basically a monthly package containing useful stuff like teleport scrolls (to various zones), health stones(pve), resurrection scrolls(pve), perhaps a coal ward or two, campaign-related essentials, crafting essentials, random shards, RP stones, enchantments, etc. that players can buy not from the zen market, but directly from the site like the Hero of the North package. Perhaps people can even choose what rewards they receive using a point system, so that weekly sales/events do not affect the value of the contents of the package and so the package can be customized depending on what players are working on/what they need more. The contents can even be slightly randomized. 10-15$ per package once a month seems fair.
Resourceful players or people who simply have a lot of time in their hands have always been pretty much at home in NW, and so are the big spenders. But for players in-between, players who cannot afford to invest extra time/effort into the game or who have just a bit more $$ than time - the game can be pretty harsh. The introduction of such a package would be an excellent way to address this.
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Someone apparently closed my previous topic simply because the word "subscription" came up, regardless of the fact that a "pseudo-subscription" is definitely NOT a real subscription and that the gist of the Q&A posted there - that the devs do not want to force players into playing the game - has absolutely nothing to do with this post.
This post simply attempts to put forth a suggestion that would address how the game's remaining players tend to be either dedicated F2Pers who run 20+ leadership alts or whales. Frankly, I find the fact that this is happening alarming.
You there. New to the game? Feeling overwhelmed? Maybe you think getting to end-game is impossible for a casual player like yourself, or maybe you just need to be around a community that helps each other stay sane and competitive with the latest news, current trends, random chitchat and most of all LEGIT (that is, we try to keep things fair) gameplay. If you don't mind being around quirky people and the rare occasional drama (one of our prominent TR members is apparently a mafia godfather) join nw_legit_community at http://www.nwlegitcommunity.shivtr.com/forum_threads/2330542.
With the recent rebalances to Leadership, the launching of the Xbox version of the game and various other changes directly affecting the economy which will, in a sense, "reset" several aspects of the game, I wonder if you guys have been thinking about this. It's basically a monthly package containing useful stuff like teleport scrolls (to various zones), health stones(pve), resurrection scrolls(pve), perhaps a coal ward or two, campaign-related essentials, crafting essentials, random shards, RP stones, enchantments, etc. that players can buy not from the zen market, but directly from the site like the Hero of the North package. Perhaps people can even choose what rewards they receive using a point system, so that weekly sales/events do not affect the value of the contents of the package and so the package can be customized depending on what players are working on/what they need more. The contents can even be slightly randomized. 10-15$ per package once a month seems fair.
Resourceful players or people who simply have a lot of time in their hands have always been pretty much at home in NW, and so are the big spenders. But for players in-between, players who cannot afford to invest extra time/effort into the game or who have just a bit more $$ than time - the game can be pretty harsh. The introduction of such a package would be an excellent way to address this.
PS
Someone apparently closed my previous topic simply because the word "subscription" came up, regardless of the fact that a "pseudo-subscription" is definitely NOT a real subscription and that the gist of the Q&A posted there - that the devs do not want to force players into playing the game - has absolutely nothing to do with this post.
This post simply attempts to put forth a suggestion that would address how the game's remaining players tend to be either dedicated F2Pers who run 20+ leadership alts or whales. Frankly, I find the fact that this is happening alarming.
One coal ward is already $10. they wouldnt give a pack that gives you a coal ward + other stuff for a price that low. I see what you are looking for, but the thing is unfortunately neverwinter doesnt really work on small purchases like that. i'd personally love the cost of like 50% of items for zen to be reduced, but its not how they run this game. of course having a "themed monthly adventurer pack" would be a good selling product, and possibly even increase revenue on some months depending on the pack contents. I'd assume though that "lockboxes" are their version of this as they change every month or two and often have useful gear in them.
silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
edited March 2015
Lets put it this way, when they put things that are both A. Useful and B. seems to be a good value, poeple buy it in droves, then most of us just wait for A and B to show up again.
The ridiculous pricing of thier items, is what prevents me from purchasing much in the game (Example, RP.. lol silly stupid)
This morning, got a 50% coupon off dye packs and lo and behold, decided to buy one. See the correlation.
i would happily pay up to 15-20 bucks every month to play with some goodies but the game does not offer anything like that...
i definitely have not 50-60-180 euros they ask me for promotions so i pass almost always.
10 euros even only to support the game and see changes? i would do it.
edit: come on dont close this too, im telling them i want to give money not threatening their lifes
Lets put it this way, when they put things that are both A. Useful and B. seems to be a good value, poeple buy it in droves, then most of us just wait for A and B to show up again.
The ridiculous pricing of thier items, is what prevents me from purchasing much in the game (Example, RP.. lol silly stupid)
This morning, got a 50% coupon off dye packs and lo and behold, decided to buy one. See the correlation.
Well, part of what makes this idea viable (IMO) is that its only available once per month (like the monthly s. thing). The drastically reduced prices for the items in the pack (depending on whether they decide to implement a point system or randomize it a bit or both - a static pack doesn't make sense since needs change) will be offset by its limited availability. And if it manages to coax (not force - the pack shouldn't contain anything that would alarm dedicated F2Pers) some of the current F2Pers to start spending cash on the game again, then it's a win-win isn't it?
My idea of an example of the contents of a particular pack for the month would be: 2 or so coal wards, 5 or so preserve wards, various nicknacks including 10 or so Teleport: Tiamat's Temple Entrance and various other teleport scrolls (temporary/1 month duration?), campaign nicknacks of your choice and perhaps a few shards (of your choice). Next month it would be RP items and rare crafting nicknacks (perhaps even purple-grade temporary assets?) instead of coal/preserve wards.
IMO the "fresh" economic environment that mod6 will potentially introduce combined with the release of the Xbox version makes conditions ideal for the release of this (or something similar) random monthly pack .
You there. New to the game? Feeling overwhelmed? Maybe you think getting to end-game is impossible for a casual player like yourself, or maybe you just need to be around a community that helps each other stay sane and competitive with the latest news, current trends, random chitchat and most of all LEGIT (that is, we try to keep things fair) gameplay. If you don't mind being around quirky people and the rare occasional drama (one of our prominent TR members is apparently a mafia godfather) join nw_legit_community at http://www.nwlegitcommunity.shivtr.com/forum_threads/2330542.
This post simply attempts to put forth a suggestion that would address how the game's remaining players tend to be either dedicated F2Pers who run 20+ leadership alts or whales. Frankly, I find the fact that this is happening alarming.
As a non-whale I certainly feel like I'm priced out of the game and although I've spent a token amount that was effectively a donation, if I look at what I got for it I'm not inspired to spend any more, part of that is rng related. I don't know that this package would be useful for me at this point but it's certainly an interesting concept.
There are other games that offer similar deals after coming off the subscription scheme: The Secret World is the one I know and play, but from what I hear, ESO does that (kinda), too...
Well the main concern of this idea are players like (apparently) cheesegromit up there. In the end it's not so much about having an pseudo-subscription model that gives players (with the means) a better experience, it's more about reaching out to an (apparently, vanishing) specific group of players who are neither dedicated F2Pers nor whales.
You there. New to the game? Feeling overwhelmed? Maybe you think getting to end-game is impossible for a casual player like yourself, or maybe you just need to be around a community that helps each other stay sane and competitive with the latest news, current trends, random chitchat and most of all LEGIT (that is, we try to keep things fair) gameplay. If you don't mind being around quirky people and the rare occasional drama (one of our prominent TR members is apparently a mafia godfather) join nw_legit_community at http://www.nwlegitcommunity.shivtr.com/forum_threads/2330542.
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silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
As a non-whale I certainly feel like I'm priced out of the game and although I've spent a token amount that was effectively a donation, if I look at what I got for it I'm not inspired to spend any more, part of that is rng related. I don't know that this package would be useful for me at this point but it's certainly an interesting concept.
Im going to challenge this whale concept, sure there is always whales, but whales bought keys, who turned them into digital currency, no one bought outright HAMSTER like RP from the ZEN market, becuase there is zero return in the end and its cheaper to avoid junk like that.
In addition there was a fairly high percantage of players (and some still around) who managed to get away with certain exploits in the last two years who racked up hundreds of thousands of AD on multiple accounts and still spend that money , then come on the forums and troll how superior they are to others.
IS there a REALLY, small percentage of players spending 2k a year in this game? Ya, but everyone knows its a REALLY small percentage.
They are LOSING out on money not marketing to their core gamer, those of us willing to spend a couple hundred dollars a year for items that we deem to be of good entertainment purpose value.
Ive barely spent any money in this game since Mod 5, basically due to this RP system they put into place, because WHAT was the point, I will never be able to make more then one toon competitive in the system they generated, so I just stopped caring to make any of them competitive. When you SO far remove the carrot from the dangling horses mouth, they can no longer see it, its not a carrot anymore, its just a myth.
Even in mod 6, they made some good changes, but its not enough, I want to play 4-5 toons in this game, not just one.
I also think no would challenge your assumption that average/casual/"core" gamers are slowly being pushed into going almost fully F2P (in contrast to dedicated F2Pers). As I mentioned in my first post, I think this should be a genuine concern among the devs, and is the main reason why I'm suggesting this pack.
You there. New to the game? Feeling overwhelmed? Maybe you think getting to end-game is impossible for a casual player like yourself, or maybe you just need to be around a community that helps each other stay sane and competitive with the latest news, current trends, random chitchat and most of all LEGIT (that is, we try to keep things fair) gameplay. If you don't mind being around quirky people and the rare occasional drama (one of our prominent TR members is apparently a mafia godfather) join nw_legit_community at http://www.nwlegitcommunity.shivtr.com/forum_threads/2330542.
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One coal ward is already $10. they wouldnt give a pack that gives you a coal ward + other stuff for a price that low. I see what you are looking for, but the thing is unfortunately neverwinter doesnt really work on small purchases like that. i'd personally love the cost of like 50% of items for zen to be reduced, but its not how they run this game. of course having a "themed monthly adventurer pack" would be a good selling product, and possibly even increase revenue on some months depending on the pack contents. I'd assume though that "lockboxes" are their version of this as they change every month or two and often have useful gear in them.
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The ridiculous pricing of thier items, is what prevents me from purchasing much in the game (Example, RP.. lol silly stupid)
This morning, got a 50% coupon off dye packs and lo and behold, decided to buy one. See the correlation.
i definitely have not 50-60-180 euros they ask me for promotions so i pass almost always.
10 euros even only to support the game and see changes? i would do it.
edit: come on dont close this too, im telling them i want to give money not threatening their lifes
This has been the barrier for me for a long time.
My idea of an example of the contents of a particular pack for the month would be: 2 or so coal wards, 5 or so preserve wards, various nicknacks including 10 or so Teleport: Tiamat's Temple Entrance and various other teleport scrolls (temporary/1 month duration?), campaign nicknacks of your choice and perhaps a few shards (of your choice). Next month it would be RP items and rare crafting nicknacks (perhaps even purple-grade temporary assets?) instead of coal/preserve wards.
IMO the "fresh" economic environment that mod6 will potentially introduce combined with the release of the Xbox version makes conditions ideal for the release of this (or something similar) random monthly pack .
As a non-whale I certainly feel like I'm priced out of the game and although I've spent a token amount that was effectively a donation, if I look at what I got for it I'm not inspired to spend any more, part of that is rng related. I don't know that this package would be useful for me at this point but it's certainly an interesting concept.
...so it might hold water.
Im going to challenge this whale concept, sure there is always whales, but whales bought keys, who turned them into digital currency, no one bought outright HAMSTER like RP from the ZEN market, becuase there is zero return in the end and its cheaper to avoid junk like that.
In addition there was a fairly high percantage of players (and some still around) who managed to get away with certain exploits in the last two years who racked up hundreds of thousands of AD on multiple accounts and still spend that money , then come on the forums and troll how superior they are to others.
IS there a REALLY, small percentage of players spending 2k a year in this game? Ya, but everyone knows its a REALLY small percentage.
They are LOSING out on money not marketing to their core gamer, those of us willing to spend a couple hundred dollars a year for items that we deem to be of good entertainment purpose value.
Ive barely spent any money in this game since Mod 5, basically due to this RP system they put into place, because WHAT was the point, I will never be able to make more then one toon competitive in the system they generated, so I just stopped caring to make any of them competitive. When you SO far remove the carrot from the dangling horses mouth, they can no longer see it, its not a carrot anymore, its just a myth.
Even in mod 6, they made some good changes, but its not enough, I want to play 4-5 toons in this game, not just one.
I also think no would challenge your assumption that average/casual/"core" gamers are slowly being pushed into going almost fully F2P (in contrast to dedicated F2Pers). As I mentioned in my first post, I think this should be a genuine concern among the devs, and is the main reason why I'm suggesting this pack.