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February Leaderboard result (demise)

zeusomzeusom Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 810 Arc User
edited February 2015 in PvP Discussion
At end of each month I track the Top 500 on the PvP Leaderboard and see how that reflects class balance and how that balance is changing over time (since class changes take time to reflect fully on leaderboard).

- TR and HR are both on the rise and the number from every other class has fallen since 2 months ago.
- We are heading towards a situation where 50% of every player in the highly competitive top PvP bracket is a TR.
- SW went from horrible to abysmal and may fall below 1%. And SW fury capstone damage was nerfed last week.



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Previously I showed random samples taken from middle of the leaderboard show roughly proportionate distribution of classes (10-20% of each class: 100%/7 classes = 14%) as it should be. So interpreting this graphic as meaning "more people are playing TR" is, while true, not correct as the reason they are dominant on the top boards - TR dominates leaderboard ever more because they are so effing overpowered. More people are playing them is only a minor factor.
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  • martianmnhuntermartianmnhunter Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Thanks for the insight, I had no clue so many play TR or that TR is such a strong class, cheers!
  • rotatorkufrotatorkuf Member Posts: 537 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    inb4 thread is derailed into "nerf tr" then your typical forum mod comes in and closes an otherwise important thread
  • zeusomzeusom Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 810 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    martianmnhunter wrote: »
    Thanks for the insight, I had no clue so many play TR or that TR is such a strong class, cheers!

    Suresure. I wonder why is the first comment a new post so often some smartass. As if they wait around boards to get a first jab at something.. same phenom happens on twitter youtube and elsewhere. There is a word for that, oh bother I forget :rolleyes:
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  • rotatorkufrotatorkuf Member Posts: 537 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    xsayajinx1 wrote: »
    Well who wonders about your track?
    After the TR buff my K/D went from 3/1 to 10/1 and climbed several pages on the leaderboard up (page 16 currently), legit of course!

    Still nicely done zeusom, at least you are one of those who tryies to provide constructive feedback with proof.
    But not quite sure how exploits affect the leaderboard in its correctness!

    Well, I don't care about leaderboard anyways, it has no value for me.

    well, the kicking exploit doesn't affect the fact that TRs are so popular...for reasons already mentioned a million times to the devs
  • zeusomzeusom Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 810 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Leaderboard doesnt matter, there are no rewards other than ego. But class balance matters a whole lot, and this picture is worth 1000 words to show it is severely lacking here.
    Sopi (aka Haxbox) SW [Synergy]
    Sopi SW Youtube channel pvp brickabrack

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  • xxxgriessonxxxxxxgriessonxxx Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    macjae wrote: »
    I think what this says is that TRs are still overpowered, and that, simultaneously, more and more people are getting to enjoy the awesomeness of undodgeable roots of megadeath.


    Yep, CW>HR on chart only cause of the noticeably bigger number of well geared CWs.
  • martianmnhuntermartianmnhunter Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    zeusom wrote: »
    Suresure. I wonder why is the first comment a new post so often some smartass. As if they wait around boards to get a first jab at something.. same phenom happens on twitter youtube and elsewhere. There is a word for that, oh bother I forget :rolleyes:

    I think you could put your graph skills to better use, there are already dozen threads pointing how problematic TRs are, also not to mention if any of the devs just opens the leaderboard window he will immediately notice the disparity.

    I've been playing this game for awhile and i noticed how they balance things, my theory is this:
    They have backlog of changes that some are from the community feedback, the problem is by the time they implement the changes alot of content changed, THAT'S why we see alot of changes that don't make sense (like nerfing the same class back to back).
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2015
    That mostly sounds as expected. Overpowered TRs (in solo ques and premades) plague the leaderboard.
  • jackedbrahjackedbrah Member Posts: 118 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2015
    not a single surprise was seen that day.

    TR being OP and CW being the most well-rounded class since beta (in both PVP and PVE).

    yipeee.

    I like the GF stats though. It makes them rare, people are impressed when they see a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> GF who's good.
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  • lwedarlwedar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    jackedbrah wrote: »
    not a single surprise was seen that day.

    TR being OP and CW being the most well-rounded class since beta (in both PVP and PVE).

    yipeee.

    I like the GF stats though. It makes them rare, people are impressed when they see a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> GF who's good.


    Thats true CW were so well rounded that people would ask for 3 or more to run any dungeon...
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  • dragoness10dragoness10 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    If I am OP then just kill me more often. Problem solved? Not quite. I still occasionally get kicked from dungeons if we don't kill a boss the first time. :shrugs: Same as complaints in PvP on occasion if I don't babysit towers. Hey, TRs can go get kills too. Counts for the PvP campaigns.
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  • rotatorkufrotatorkuf Member Posts: 537 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    dragoness10 wrote: »
    If I am OP then just kill me more often. Problem solved? Not quite. I still occasionally get kicked from dungeons if we don't kill a boss the first time. :shrugs: Same as complaints in PvP on occasion if I don't babysit towers. Hey, TRs can go get kills too. Counts for the PvP campaigns.

    what is the purpose of this post? i don't even...
  • heruwath1heruwath1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    zeusom wrote: »
    Leaderboard doesnt matter, there are no rewards other than ego. But class balance matters a whole lot, and this picture is worth 1000 words to show it is severely lacking here.

    So .... you actually mean ...that dps DC is the most powerfull class in pvp since unless im not mistaken the #1 is a dps dc for several weeks i might add... so ... good luck going into a premade with a dps dc

    PS I know what you meant in your comment so dont bother explaining it better , just try to understand what I mean in my response

    PS Plz , for the love of god DONT pay attention to LB
  • tsokushintsokushin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    heruwath1 wrote: »
    So .... you actually mean ...that dps DC is the most powerfull class in pvp since unless im not mistaken the #1 is a dps dc for several weeks i might add... so ... good luck going into a premade with a dps dc

    PS I know what you meant in your comment so dont bother explaining it better , just try to understand what I mean in my response

    PS Plz , for the love of god DONT pay attention to LB

    Don't make blanket posts like that. The DC that's #1 on leaderboard along with the only GF and HR on page 1 are all bug abusers.

    We in the PvP community have generally cracked down on people that abuse their way to the top, and considering that, I view the LB as a more accurate representation now of class balance in PvP.
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