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Please allow us to refine ANY Artifact into RP for another Artifact

mstrssihrmstrssihr Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 545 Arc User
edited January 2015 in General Discussion (PC)
Please allow us to recycle/refine ANY Artifact into RP, even class specific ones. Currently, all class specific Artifacts have a block on them so that they can't be used for refinement. Why is this? Instead, why can't you just make it so that each char can only have one of each, ever and with them being BoP what's the big deal? You could add all the class specific artifacts to Zen shop for those that are kicking them self for using theirs for refinement and wishing they had another.

I got 2 of these things to Legendary but because of new mods, new gear and new boons- they've turned out to be very poor choices for my current set up AND Now I'm stuck with them. We have no way to use them for refinement into something else? oO
- Major Peachy Bottom * Gutbuster's Brigade -

"Last request - microtransactions for alllll old skins for zen/weapon appearance changes, 500 zen to make ur wep glow the color/enchant you want it... You will make more off that one item than any other zen item ever made." freshour

"beckylunatic" Gateway AH should have column headers to sort by buyout, bid, end time, quantity, etc. These disappeared iirc with the module launch. It's obnoxious.
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  • henry404henry404 Member Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    The reason they are blocked is because you could use them as RP then go and claim another one from the reward guy. Likewise with the Dragonborn artifact, which starts at purple.

    It would be nice if we could to use them to refine other things but they only give us back whatever RP we had added since claiming them (or at least most of those RP). However, the game engine might not be able to easily make that distinction. Maybe every Lvl X artifact is worth the same RP.

    I have the Cleric Sigil artifact maxed on my CW which, right now, is my artifact of choice (gives me an extra daily every 2 minutes). But looking ahead to new mods and new artifacts there will probably come a day when I gaze ruefully at all those non-recyclable RP. Still, that day is not yet here.
  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Class Artifacts and Artifacts from item packs should be unlocked for RP use once they are at Legendary level. Its that simple.
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  • karakla1karakla1 Member Posts: 1,355 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    not really. the system must calculate the free levels of the artifact and give you the invested rp back. too much work for stuff you literall get for free.
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  • karakla1karakla1 Member Posts: 1,355 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    sorry for double post

    Aaand you had another problem. You would only use thw class artifacts as refinement storage. because you can double the RP by refine another artifact in another matching artifact.
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  • mstrssihrmstrssihr Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    henry404 wrote: »
    The reason they are blocked is because you could use them as RP then go and claim another one from the reward guy. Likewise with the Dragonborn artifact, which starts at purple.
    mstrssihr wrote: »
    Instead, why can't you just make it so that each char can only have one of each, ever and with them being BoP what's the big deal? You could add all the class specific artifacts to Zen shop for those that are kicking them self for using theirs for refinement and wishing they had another.

    Easily remedied by making them unobtainable through the Rewards Claim agent once you char has already claimed one. After you've claimed one then you have to buy another one from the Zen shop for a VERY reasonable amount. As far as any ideas about farming them for RP in this way, that would be totally squashed due to the fact that after your first free one you'd have to pay Zen. A artifact gives HAMSTER RP anyway but if you wanna use it to refine a diff artifact so be it. Perhaps, make it so that they can only be refined once they're at lvl 30 Rare rank. Idk for sure the best answer but there are surely many possibilities out there. :P
    - Major Peachy Bottom * Gutbuster's Brigade -

    "Last request - microtransactions for alllll old skins for zen/weapon appearance changes, 500 zen to make ur wep glow the color/enchant you want it... You will make more off that one item than any other zen item ever made." freshour

    "beckylunatic" Gateway AH should have column headers to sort by buyout, bid, end time, quantity, etc. These disappeared iirc with the module launch. It's obnoxious.
  • henry404henry404 Member Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Maybe the guy who gives you the first artifact quest should offer to buy back any refined artifacts. He could pay you character-bound RP stones to the value of, say, 80% of what you put in. I'd guess that would be a fairly simple mechanism to add to the game. The 80% would discourage use as an RP store.

    Or maybe RP will be easier to obtain in Mod 6 so it will not matter so much that we have to refine another from scratch.
  • burkaancburkaanc Member Posts: 2,186 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    emilemo wrote: »
    Class Artifacts and Artifacts from item packs should be unlocked for RP use once they are at Legendary level. Its that simple.

    imho epic might be enough
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  • mstrssihrmstrssihr Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    karakla1 wrote: »
    not really. the system must calculate the free levels of the artifact and give you the invested rp back. too much work for stuff you literall get for free.

    I have 2 that are legendary, I didn't get them there for "free". On the contrary it took a hell of of alot of work. :P

    karakla1 wrote: »
    sorry for double post

    Aaand you had another problem. You would only use thw class artifacts as refinement storage. because you can double the RP by refine another artifact in another matching artifact.

    I agree with the double RP issue and can see where that would be a problem. So, it couldnt be "any artifact into any artifact" it'd would have to be "any artifact into any artifact, except for same".
    - Major Peachy Bottom * Gutbuster's Brigade -

    "Last request - microtransactions for alllll old skins for zen/weapon appearance changes, 500 zen to make ur wep glow the color/enchant you want it... You will make more off that one item than any other zen item ever made." freshour

    "beckylunatic" Gateway AH should have column headers to sort by buyout, bid, end time, quantity, etc. These disappeared iirc with the module launch. It's obnoxious.
  • pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    emilemo wrote: »
    Class Artifacts and Artifacts from item packs should be unlocked for RP use once they are at Legendary level. Its that simple.

    Exactly !!!!! +1
  • mstrssihrmstrssihr Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I am the proud owner of 2 shiney golden poos!!

    A single one of these treasures is worth 3,847,635 Refinement points but we aren't given any way to empty that treasure and re-use that allllll that RP. Again, please consider looking into this and making it so that the rules around this are tweaked to be more friendly. Everyone knows we are RP hungry and 3.8m RP ain't nothing to be overlooked. ;)

    ??? zlxjx3.jpg ??? Tell me it ain't so!
    - Major Peachy Bottom * Gutbuster's Brigade -

    "Last request - microtransactions for alllll old skins for zen/weapon appearance changes, 500 zen to make ur wep glow the color/enchant you want it... You will make more off that one item than any other zen item ever made." freshour

    "beckylunatic" Gateway AH should have column headers to sort by buyout, bid, end time, quantity, etc. These disappeared iirc with the module launch. It's obnoxious.
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