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blondeflex
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Im looking to buy a new laptop . Price range 500$ Max
What Laptops would you recommend to play this game? I don't really want to run it at like 1080p all setting maxed! Mid/ Semi High graph setting will do.
What are your pc specs?
Thank you In advance. And sorry i this thread doesn't belong here:D
What Laptops would you recommend to play this game? I don't really want to run it at like 1080p all setting maxed! Mid/ Semi High graph setting will do.
What are your pc specs?
Thank you In advance. And sorry i this thread doesn't belong here:D
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Video games require something better than Intel graphics. This means going out of your way to find a laptop with a dedicated graphics card and this normally carries an $800 dollar minimum.
General rule of thumb, if you plan on playing video games a desktop computer is going to have to cost $500 for a budget system. $400 *might* be doable if you really cut to bare minimums which I really wouldn't advise. That extra 100 dollars gets you a lot.
Laptops tend to cost double for the same performance so a $500 dollar laptop would be $1000 dollars.
Let me check for *anything* that might be decent...but I am sad to say you are likely going to have to double that budget if you plan on playing any video games.
I remember my ex Bf getting a HP laptop (cant remember model) and being able to play this game on Pretty High graph settings with almost no lag. and getting down to mid settings sometimes, on very crowded dungeon battles.
This video I feel really hits the nail on the head and explains my point.
I build computers as a hobby and have built the desktop computers for most of my friends and family and of course being middle class citizens they aren't exactly looking to blow large bundles of money on their computers. However you want to get the most for your money no matter what.
I have two graphics cards which were 600 dollars a piece at the time of purchase. Most people don't. Currently for budget gaming on a desktop computer I recommend the NVidia 750 Ti. It's not the best performance but this is actually a card perfectly suited for what you want. It will do perfectly fine in 1080p on any game with mid to high settings. Some games it might even do so well that it can play ultra. It's $140 that will last a few years.
Unfortunately life isn't nearly as easy with laptops. Laptop GPU's are not the same and due to all the varying parts are really hard to gauge without a bit of experience. For instance even as I was looking through I thought, wow I might have found some good deals before I spit out my soda upon seeing the benchmarks of the hardware.
This is the laptop I would recommend getting. It is not light or thin. Contrary to popular opinion this is a good thing. Computer parts need room to breath particularly when they are used in high demand situations like games.
This is a cheaper option but that extra $200 dollars gets you a lot because it is the sweet spot Linus was talking about. This is a lower resolution monitor (might be 720p), has a decently slower processor, has half the RAM (although 8 is enough it's worth noting that alone is likely worth $100 in parts retail value) and that last bit is the point.
Even though you don't need the extra 8 GBs of RAM that is how much more value you get for that extra $200. It may be $200 dollars more but you get a lot more performance and even if you don't want the best of the best now putting a few more pennies now will ultimately give you more time before you feel in need of a newer shinier computer. Buying below the "sweet spot" doesn't only result in less satisfaction now but also results in a sooner need for replacement.
Think of it like buying a car with over 100K miles. Yeah it might cost a lot less but it also means you will have to buy a new car much sooner (even disregarding the obvious cost of repairs). It's always ideal to spend more to get a car under 100K miles than buy a car above it.
But now that my elitist and "omg let me save this person from stupid products that shouldn't exist" side has been expressed...
If you want to do your own research then check benchmarks. Do NOT use model numbers or Mhz or Ghz to in ANY way base your opinion of how good the computer will perform. For any NVidia based system you are going to want the last two digits to be 50+ on the GPU model. A 770M is FAR better than an 820M. The first digit is the generation number while the second two are the tier numbers. Anything less than 50 is utter trash. DO NOT BUY IT or if you do then know you without question shot yourself in the foot because...I said I wasn't going to do this....*calms down*
So yeah...always look at the processor and GPU and look for benchmarks. This is why:
8 Core Processor, 4 Ghz Processor - Score of 9,000
4 Core, 3.4 Ghz Processor - Score of 9,900
The CPU with more cores and more Ghz is not always faster.
Nvidia 840M GPU - Score of 855
Nvidia 770M GPU - Score of 2780
In case I didn't make myself clear earlier: DO NOT BUY ANYTHING WITH AN 840M GPU IN IT because it's GARBAGE and DOESN"T MAKE SENSE. A penny saved is not a penny earned in this case. You don't have to buy multi-thousand dollar computers like me but look at the price to performance and buy in the sweet spot. If you can't afford the sweet spot then wait. It is not worth buying anything in the $500 range and frankly I am surprised I found the $779 option.
In order to run this game you need something other than utter sh---I mean Intel HD Graphics. I was absolutely not saying to play Skyrim, BF4 or Shadows of Mordor at ultra...I was talking about ANY game other than those things which are only games in the most technical of definition on Facebook.
Even Runescape will need something better than Intel HD to play at Max Settings...which are below minimum settings for most games including NW.
Playing NW was not the reason I bought it but it will play the game at an acceptable level of detail and frame rate. It's equivalent to a low to mid range PC gaming card.
I'm in the UK and the model number is HP 255 G3. I paid just 199 GBP from eBuyer. It won't set your world alight but it will play the game comfortably, even in Tiamat. So it's a bonus, really.
4th Gen Intel® Core™ i3-4010U processor
4GB DDR3 memory
500GB hard drive
Intel® HD Graphics 5000
What made me consider the intel hd 5000. is that it can run a lot of games Like Batman Ark City,WoW,Skyrim etc at high settings.
but guess ill try to save up more money
...sort of...there's a few technicalities to that reference not relevant to this thread
It is worse than the 840M I said was stupid to buy and lacks certain support for certain features and rendering options...basically some games will even result in a lovely "uhhh...please get a real graphics card if you want to play this game..." message. That won't happen on the 840M even if it is a stupid card that shouldn't exist.
Now AMD is a cheaper alternative as henry404 said. For educational purposes I find NVidia's naming structure much easier to explain rather than trying to explain what R7 and R9's are and then the several dozen models within them. At least with desktops I could say "just get an R9 ____ and you will be fine," but I only saw R7's in laptops (normally buried in an APU) and it required quite a bit of digging often just to figure out what version the graphics card was let alone getting a benchmark.
Long story short, while AMD offers a better value it was really difficult to weed out the junk. If you put the time into it then it might pay off but it is far easier to search "Laptop Nvidia" than "Laptop Radeon" and get pertinent results.
Because...if you didn't know...people who buy computers and plan on ever playing any games should care about three things above all else: Processor, RAM and GPU...
And Laptops almost never list their GPU's on the front cover...let alone do stores offer a simple list which says "here our our non-junk laptops." Instead they sell people on flashy gimicks. "Look at all the things the operating system gives you even if you installed the OS on a fifteen year old computer...you should so buy this new one anyway"
As one final bit of food for thought...the $80 dollars graphics card reviewed in the link was the R7 240. Note the passmark benchmarks were 855 for the junky NVidia Card I said not to buy. The Intel one was 728. And the one he reviewed and showed the specs for and said 'good grief don't waste your money' was 962.
The laptop market is completely saturated with junk.
You don't need one (let alone 2) Nvidia GTX 780's like I have. But don't waste money on products a third as good as my mid range GPU from five years ago.
UPDATE: I checked staples, and below seems to be pretty close: http://www.staples.com/HP-Pavilion-15-p167us-AMD-A10-6GB-RAM-750GB-Hard-drive-156/product_1440994
Here's one, but it only has 4GB of RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1N82829892
And another: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314557
There's this one, it also only has 4GB of RAM, but it's only $470: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9115787&CatId=4935
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I only saw a lot of A8's when looking through AMD Laptops which I don't think are worth a $500 price tag..or good enough to run the game above low settings. Thanks for finding some A10's Biostem.
But even with A10's you should be careful to check the Graphics Processor. Some of the ones you listed are less than ideal. What model A10 do you have?
if u plan to play some games on your laptop i recommand u the one with nvidia 840m
this one looks good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314535it is a bit over your buged but think it worth to give 50$ more to get 840m in laptop
I have a Lenovo g505s - bought from Staples online while it was on sale, (link to manufacturer's website below, mine has the A10 processor):
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/lenovo/g-series/g505s/#tab-tech_specs
*Note that mine does *not* have the dedicated video card, and instead uses the one that's part of the APU.
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Just remember not to buy that 840M earlier suggested. No, no, no. Never. No.
But I do still agree with charononus. Saving 500 now is going to lose 500 later. The ROG one is still worth every penny more if for no other reason than it's not an oven.
yeah amd is better then intel as basic integrated gpus
but why not 840m powerd laptop? i did not seen ppl complain on its heat generation and ppl says it holds battery for 7 hours its power in games should be 3-4 better then the one with basic integrated gpus
Intel has absolutely horrible performance but it doesn't make sense to spend money on a dedicated GPU which is not better than Intel's APU. $80 dollars of that 500 then goes to a horrible GPU you would have gotten included with an intel chip.
I posted the benchmarks from one website on the previous page. The performance is relatively the same. An 840M would be a waste of money. No ifs, ands or buts. You might as well buy a superior processor rather than buy a weaker processor for the same quality GPU.
When you build a gaming computer on a budget there's a lot of tinkering to cut back costs here and there to put money towards a better GPU. Most people would recommend getting a slower processor in favor of a better GPU when it comes to running any games because while the CPU is important the GPU is far more important.
For instance if you are looking at spending $400 between the GPU and CPU it makes more sense to buy a $100 CPU and $300 GPU than a $200 CPU and GPU or $300 CPU and $100 GPU. If you plan on doing any gaming no matter how light this is the advice you will get.
By purchasing a computer with an 840M you are essentially opting for the last scenario except you are only getting $100 of CPU and $100 of GPU performance for a $400 price tag. 840M's are not free. So basically when you look at a $500 computer with an 840M it will have a slower processor with absolutely no graphics benefit. Bad decision though and through.
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Betriebssystem Windows 7 Home Premium Home Edition
CPU Typ Intel Pentium III Xeon, 1900 MHz
Arbeitsspeicher 4056 MB
Grafikkarte Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family (1847482 KB)
This setup is enough to play this game at bare minimum. Sometimes very low framerate in dungeons or crowded areas. I am deffenitly NOT happy with how i need to play this game at the moment and look forward to buy something new.
So anything that comes for 500$ nowadays should be able to run that game at normal settings i would say.