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k9madrushk9madrush Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
edited January 2015 in The Militia Barracks
Good day fellow adventurers Im looking for a PVP SM build I have a 16k GS GWF that I grind in Tiamat for gears
Im currently using a Instigator build and Im looking for a better build. Thank you in advance
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  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    hey there, what is your aim for GWF? Cause SM is very limited in terms of pvp, pretty much sentinel tree not being an option for it. Your best bet is to play a destroyer if you rly want to somewhat compensate the lack of mobility, but for a solo queue it will be a painful experience.
  • k9madrushk9madrush Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    ortzhy wrote: »
    hey there, what is your aim for GWF? Cause SM is very limited in terms of pvp, pretty much sentinel tree not being an option for it. Your best bet is to play a destroyer if you rly want to somewhat compensate the lack of mobility, but for a solo queue it will be a painful experience.

    Hi ortzhy! I would like a pvp and pve viable build Im using Instig taking advantage of CA from Mighty Leap and coupled it with SF to stun/setup and finish with IBS I have Draconic main+off and DT set my setup is around high power+recovery with 20% armpen. My main problem in keeping up with range and mobile class, so your insight and expertise could help me build and play with my SM. Thank you

    P.S: I really love being a SM i know the disadvantages but steel blitz is a favorite thing of mine so a little tips and tricks or some important hints will be helpful. Thank you for your reply
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    k9madrush wrote: »
    Hi ortzhy! I would like a pvp and pve viable build Im using Instig taking advantage of CA from Mighty Leap and coupled it with SF to stun/setup and finish with IBS I have Draconic main+off and DT set my setup is around high power+recovery with 20% armpen. My main problem in keeping up with range and mobile class, so your insight and expertise could help me build and play with my SM. Thank you

    P.S: I really love being a SM i know the disadvantages but steel blitz is a favorite thing of mine so a little tips and tricks or some important hints will be helpful. Thank you for your reply

    Then you should respec to sentinel spec. At least then you could mark with DS without losing too much dps. Fact is, you're losing a good gapcloser and a lot of damage by choosing SM build for pvp, as they cannot reliably mark. Mark + powerful challenge feat makes a +38% dmg boost.
  • k9madrushk9madrush Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    zvieris wrote: »
    Then you should respec to sentinel spec. At least then you could mark with DS without losing too much dps. Fact is, you're losing a good gapcloser and a lot of damage by choosing SM build for pvp, as they cannot reliably mark. Mark + powerful challenge feat makes a +38% dmg boost.

    You are correct thats my problem with SM gap close and mark so Im looking for alternative build that will fit SM and make it viable for pvp
  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    k9madrush wrote: »
    You are correct thats my problem with SM gap close and mark so Im looking for alternative build that will fit SM and make it viable for pvp

    I am trying to write something for like 20 min now, but truth is there is no way for a SM to work in pvp. Skills are way too buggy and hard to land while you;ll lack CA plus extra dmg from marks and that is a lot of missing dmg- 40% missing dmg.

    You can play Destro or Instigator but not as SM.
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  • rinat114rinat114 Member Posts: 913 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Sadly I don't think Destroyer is viable for PVP at all. I'm a destro and I struggle in PVP mainly because of tr's. Flourish is a very good choice if you choose to go Destro, since it chases the foe, but bear in mind you have no anti-tr moves, and that just might get you ganked right away. For that reason alone I respec to full sentinel from time to time for pvp. Intimidation is roughly the only anti-tr move a gwf has, and the damage isn't even bad. Also super invincible when unstopabble due to the massive dr you get.

    Just my two cents.
  • k9madrushk9madrush Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    I have no problem in pvp as long as I strategically team up with a DC or CW and yes my GWF struggled against TR, HR and CW
    I need to burn their dodges before I can land a stun on them I use a SF cancelling with sprint to fake a encounter and bait them to a dodge but CW and SW is the worst chase I ever had.

    I really know the disadvantages of SM but I really want to work on it and make it a decent class in pvp not only pve
  • effectensteineffectenstein Member Posts: 1,031 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    profound destroyer set + legendary weapon and offhand (bravery class feat) + 2x slot rings HP and deflect + lathander neck + lathander/con belt + sigil of devoted + sigil of gwf and another random artefact.
    on OFFENSE radiants , on Defense Radiants.
    as heroic
    first colum 0 / 3 / 3
    second colum 0 /3 /3
    third column 5 / 0 / 0
    fourth column 0/3/0

    sentinel: scale agility / unstopable recovery / intimidation / master at arms and the cap stone.
    destroyer: deep gash / diciple of war.

    encounters : cagi/daring shout + flourish/takedown/battle fury
    class feats : weapon master + bravery
    full CON/DEX
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    profound destroyer set + legendary weapon and offhand (bravery class feat) + 2x slot rings HP and deflect + lathander neck + lathander/con belt + sigil of devoted + sigil of gwf and another random artefact.
    on OFFENSE radiants , on Defense Radiants.
    as heroic
    first colum 0 / 3 / 3
    second colum 0 /3 /3
    third column 5 / 0 / 0
    fourth column 0/3/0

    sentinel: scale agility / unstopable recovery / intimidation / master at arms and the cap stone.
    destroyer: deep gash / diciple of war.

    encounters : cagi/daring shout + flourish/takedown/battle fury
    class feats : weapon master + bravery
    full CON/DEX

    Constitution focus is a must for PvP. I don't know why you skipped it. GWF needs as much HP as he can possibly get and constitution focus gives a nice bonus. I'm using this sentinel build: http://nwcalc.com/gwf?b=cn4:13ydj4:13ydj4,12ifx2i:100000:1uu000:15u0z1&h=1&p=smr and it works great. Non-human char would have to lose 2 points from weapon mastery and 1 point from either devastating critical or steely defence.

    Although I think I should switch Great Weapon Focus for Deep Gash as I've gotten higher power stat since the last time I respecced.
  • k9madrushk9madrush Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    Thank you for all of your great replies

    I would like to ask about CONSTITUTION FOCUS does this affect health points and armor pen from CON or health points from items?
    I have 20 CON human BTW. Thank you in advance
  • koalazebra1koalazebra1 Member Posts: 1,173 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    k9madrush wrote: »
    Thank you for all of your great replies

    I would like to ask about CONSTITUTION FOCUS does this affect health points and armor pen from CON or health points from items?
    I have 20 CON human BTW. Thank you in advance

    yep, but the armpen doesn't show in the character sheet
  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    zvieris wrote: »
    Although I think I should switch Great Weapon Focus for Deep Gash as I've gotten higher power stat since the last time I respecced.

    whatever you do, DO NOT take deep gash.. it's suicide, it gives unlimited dodges to cw and perma run to sw
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ortzhy wrote: »
    whatever you do, DO NOT take deep gash.. it's suicide, it gives unlimited dodges to cw and perma run to sw

    I've heard something like that and skipped deep gash for mod 5. Although, since I'm built for AoEs with decent crit, I'd deal more overall damage with Deep Gash. What gives CW/SW so called perma dodge?
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