In looking at the ToD boons, what does the control bonus impact? In what areas does it help?
Thank you.
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beatannierMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 692Arc User
edited December 2014
Control Bonus impacts any Crowd Control in a few, but important ways:
Increases disable / stun / dazzle duration, like:
Increases Entangling Force`s hold duration (note; the animation length is fixed and will end at 115% of CC duration time. Thus, if end control duration (after Tenacity and Control Resist decreases) is >115%, the animation will be reapplied from the beginning at 115% of duration time (it can be abused on PvP if you will put other debuff with animation at ~110–115% of foe hold that can confuse it enough to re–CC him).
Control power impacts in calculation if foe can be controlled (if your control power is higher that opponent`s control resistance, you can control a foe, especially increasing control power will allow you to control some critters that was "uncontrollable" before).
Control power takes effect only on controllable foes, togheter with determing if they are controllable (as described above). Thus, it impacts if foe will be debuffed or not for the debuffs that are applied on controlled units only (Thus; it will impacts overall party dps).
Control Power DOES NOT:
Increases spell range.
Increases AOE range.
Increases damage done on CCd enemies.
Increases owner`s power while controlling.
Decreases control spell CD.
Increases debuffs duration.
Control Power decreases:
Control power is decreased by foe`s Control Resistance. If foe is controllable, it will decrease the control power. Note that most critters have their Control Resistance at 0%, 50% or 115%.
Control power is also decreased by Tenacity in PvP. While it decreases control power; it does not determines if an enemy is controllable or not.
Examples:
You have 100% control power. You use Repel on foe that have 115% control resist.
Foe will only take damage as is uncontrollable (100% CP < 115% CR).
You have 150% control power. You use Repel on foe that have 115% control resist.
Foe will take damage and will be pushed at 35% of Repel`s base push range (150% CP - 115% CR = 35%)
You have 100% control power. You use Entangling Force on enemy player that have 80% control resist and tenacity calculated to 25% control resist. Enemy will take damage and will be holded for the duration decreased twice, first by 80% from CR (100% - 80% = 20%), then by tenacity for 25% of the result (20% - 25% * 20% = 15%).
You have 150% control power. You use Entangling Force on enemy player that have 80% control resist and tenacity calculated to 25% control resist. Enemy will take damage and will be holded for the duration calculated as following: 150% CP - 80% CR = 70% decreased by Tenacity`s 25% = 70% - 25% * 70% = 52.5%.
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Among many visual glitches like Entangling Force`s describbed above connected to the control Power boosts, there are also possibilities to abuse DoT CC by changing Control Power while CCing, increasing its duration, but I cannot describe details (Yes, I have purple Cantankerous Mage that increases Control Power by 25% and can confirm it).
Thank you so much for your very detailed and thoughtful reply!
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kieranmtornMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 382Arc User
edited December 2014
As far as I can tell from casual play (I use 45% control bonus: Mage + Will-of-the-Wisp), Chilled/Frozen duration is not affected. Also prone times don't appear to be affected (Shard).
For those that test things out, are you noticing no benefit for the ToD control bonus boons?
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beatannierMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 692Arc User
edited December 2014
Only direct, INT stats are shown in character stats, thus in gs.
As its percentage bonus, it will be not shown in character stats.
Please, take a look at this topic: Question about Boons Bonus Placement? its already explained.
I suggest you tab your Entangling Force and count the time of hang on 0% Control Resist ents, like on dummies.
It can be quite hard to test it since you don`t know the time without +10% Control Bonus, but you can always compare with others.
Personally, I didn`t got 5th boon yet, so can`t confirm if it is working or not.
But I think that asking somebody to use tabbed Entangling Force togheter with you to compare if it is 10% longer hang is a good idea.
I think you can get a help from many players.
Try asking on nw_legit_community.
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Control power impacts in calculation if foe can be controlled (if your control power is higher that opponent`s control resistance, you can control a foe, especially increasing control power will allow you to control some critters that was "uncontrollable" before).
Control power takes effect only on controllable foes, togheter with determing if they are controllable (as described above). Thus, it impacts if foe will be debuffed or not for the debuffs that are applied on controlled units only (Thus; it will impacts overall party dps).
Control Power DOES NOT:
Control Power decreases:
Examples:
Foe will only take damage as is uncontrollable (100% CP < 115% CR).
Foe will take damage and will be pushed at 35% of Repel`s base push range (150% CP - 115% CR = 35%)
PS
Among many visual glitches like Entangling Force`s describbed above connected to the control Power boosts, there are also possibilities to abuse DoT CC by changing Control Power while CCing, increasing its duration, but I cannot describe details (Yes, I have purple Cantankerous Mage that increases Control Power by 25% and can confirm it).
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For my 6th ToD boon, I took the control bonus (10%), BUT it is not listed on the character sheet. How do I know if it is working?
Thank you.
As its percentage bonus, it will be not shown in character stats.
Please, take a look at this topic: Question about Boons Bonus Placement? its already explained.
I suggest you tab your Entangling Force and count the time of hang on 0% Control Resist ents, like on dummies.
It can be quite hard to test it since you don`t know the time without +10% Control Bonus, but you can always compare with others.
Personally, I didn`t got 5th boon yet, so can`t confirm if it is working or not.
But I think that asking somebody to use tabbed Entangling Force togheter with you to compare if it is 10% longer hang is a good idea.
I think you can get a help from many players.
Try asking on nw_legit_community.
Master of Flame Renegade guide: Burn with me!