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Trickster Rogue SoD and Other Let Downs!

geministrikegeministrike Member Posts: 146 Bounty Hunter
edited December 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
Hello Everybody,

Before you start flaming please try to understand, empathise and comment respectfully. I've been a Trickster Rogue since the first day I started this game. I loved my class even tho it had been such a weakling class. I liked the stealth and other skills. First the devs decieded to nerf our one of the best attacks (impact shot) months ago, making it useless. Then they decieded to nerf our stealth thinking It would be better for PvP. But it actually did not help and everything is gotten worse. Every Trickster Rogue gone stealth build with gloaming cut making everybody Perma/Close-Perma stealth build (Including myself) in PvP making it even worse. On the other hand Duelist Flurry used to be our best At-Will power but now it depletes our stealth instantaneously. This is a very bad thing because out of PvP our DPS gotten slower and It has became nearly impossible to make "Great Success" at Well Of Dragons. While most of the Trickster Rogues try to deal some damage the dragons are already dead. We don't have super effective encounters that deals epic damage, we have only lashing blade and it surely is not enough to make enough DPS in time to get a great success. (BTW I am a 17K TR with Greater Vorpal) Let's get to the most important part of this topic. Shadow of Demise. We all know that it was bugged and now fixed(!) But is it really fixed? Or broken in an another way. SoD is a paragon feat, a most important feat to a class. But now it is not even working properly leaving us with reduced damage. Supposedly it should deal the 50% of the united damage a TR deals in 6 seconds after it procs but it only deals the half of the damage of the first hit. The super bugged damage is fixed by the devs in 2 days. But it had been a week and Devs made 2 maintanence and we are still waiting for a fix. Still... Devs really disappointed me with these let downs and I really feel frustrated. Now I'm asking all the players from all the other classes and TR users for their opinions.

I am also asking forum Mods not to move or lock this topic as it is an open discussion for all the players (TR or not) I know you may try to lock the topic claming "SoD issue" was allready talked about but there are also other elements in this topic and yet SoD (Our paragon feat, which is completely useless atm) hasn't been fixed so far.

I really like this game, it's content and all the hard work of the devs but this really is not one of them.

Thank you everybody.
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Comments

  • autodiabolicautodiabolic Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Roll a sab
  • myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    geministrike wrote: »
    Thank you everybody and shame on you devs.

    This statement will result in a locked thread. You were doing well until you threw in that final comment . . .
    SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! (repeat indefinitely)


    myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
    pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
    looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
  • henry404henry404 Member Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    It's just another whiny thread anyway.

    /close
  • geministrikegeministrike Member Posts: 146 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    I haven't said anything disrespectful neither have i cursed. It is true that I flamed devs about letting me down about couple matters. But if that statement gets the devs offended so easily (which i did not intent) Then we have some major issues then what I have stated here. I don't believe devs could be annoyed or became defensive in these such observations. Yet everything I typed here to ask for equal treatment not for some special privileges. Which is why i stated stealth/gloaming cut build issue as it is frustrating for other classes.
  • myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The rules state no shaming/flaming of devs and you said "shame on you devs." That pretty much directly violates the rules. :)
    SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! (repeat indefinitely)


    myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
    pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
    looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
  • phrendonphrendon Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    When we got the feats re-roll, I switched from Executioner to Scoundrel. Other than battling lag and using an 80% speed horse to get to dragons, I am doing well and getting a lot of great success. I think I'm at 14.7k GS. Compared to my HR which is doing really poorly, my TR is my go to fighter in the WoD.
  • henry404henry404 Member Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    My wife runs as a TR and her dps and survivability is way better since the mod 5 buff.
    Thus I consider the OP to just be wanting to whine.
  • scoutmasterjscoutmasterj Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Two observations.

    1. I have a 20K HR and when I run Epic LOL, I usually am the top DPS or a close second (to a good CW or SW). Yesterday I ran with a TR who DOUBLED my damage output.

    2. I've been playing with a friend for about a year and half, he has a TR. He never out DPS'd me, now he does. His GS is about 3K lower than mine. On the dragon hearld run, he can easily get Great Success on 4 of 5 Dragons even with the Zerg fest. I can't get any.

    Perhaps you haven't optimized your TR yet.
  • akemnosakemnos Member Posts: 597 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    not sure where you are getting that TR's cant get great success. In the few that combats I have tracked in WOD for the dragon rush I was anywhere from 2nd-5th in total damage out of aprox 20-25 people. This is with a 16.2k Exe TR. Even without SOD working properly we can still deal plenty of damage.
  • zephyrpillar1zephyrpillar1 Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    geministrike wrote: »
    Supposedly it should deal the 50% of the united damage a TR deals in 6 seconds after it procs but it only deals the half of the damage of the first hit.

    Yeah i have to say im not overly impressed either. It would be nice to have it fixed. In a timely manner. Like the 2 days it took to fix the "bug".. Not enough people will kick up a big enough fuss for them to do that though, so make do with what you have until they fix it, probably sometime around module 6 or maybe not at all
  • fdsakhfduewhfiuffdsakhfduewhfiuf Member Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    SoD is still bugged and not working as intended. The devs are aware of that and already said they are working on a fix.

    There's nothing you can do but relax and wait ;-)
  • geministrikegeministrike Member Posts: 146 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    Well I'm sorry but they should provide us some ETA. I'm not willing to wait for a fix more than a month. Why did they fixed the first SoD? Cause it was bugged it was giving us advantage. They fixed it in 2 days. 2 freakin days. Which is fair and I am glad they fixed it. But now they gave us disadvantage by breaking it otherwise. Then they should have fixed it in 2 days to like they fixed it (or at least they thought, they fixed it) before. Fair is fair right? We deserve a fix and a week passed and I see that there is still none. Then they should provide us some ETA. All we get is "we know the issue we will fix it" but mostly lack of information. I just demand some information. Like when? Like how? Like why hasn't it fixed like the first time?
  • grimelrokgrimelrok Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I understand your frustrating, many of us suffered through entire modules or long weeks - months of other classes having things broken in their favor while we continued to be nerfed every time someone QQd over us in PVP to the point where most TRs had trouble getting into groups in PVE. I personally never had that problem, but saw many complain about it regularly.

    I have always loved my TR and I was really enjoying the mod5 launch, laughing my butt off and I remember saying to some people in game that I was sure this would not last, because the only class not allowed to have fun is the TR.

    That aside, even after they changed SoD so quickly, I did a test last night when I logged in and I'm using an Executioner build and I got great success in 4/5 of the dragons twice with a 20+ pug mob running to each. So even with it broken, we are still capable of dishing out good damage. I am only like 18.5k GS at present, not some 20k plus GS and I don't use a p.Vorp, I use a p.Bile enchant on my dagger. I have had success with a few different setups, first strike is huge, currently for the dragon runs I'm rolling out with duelist flurry, cloud of steel, path of blades, lashing blade, smoke bomb, shocking execution and whirlwind of blades on my hotbars. I tend to stealth in and hit with lashing blade to open, drop smoke bomp and then path of blades, go into flurry save lashings for stealth bar refills, depending on healing or lack thereof, roll out of the way and cloud of steel a few times, roll back in, repeat till dead. If my daily is up early, I use whirlwind, preferably from stealth esp if any adds are near, whirlwind will not end stealth. Towards the end, I will get in stealth, hit 2 shocking execs off and a lashing for a nice big burst at the end of the fight as well. imo, the p.Bile ticks, the stealth SoD ticks, etc add a nice amount of damage, not to mention any flurries u can get off on stealth resets for big bleeds as well. I am sure there are many other rotations and setups, this is just what I've been having fun with out there at the moment.

    Oh and I'm still using the fallen dragon dagger set, I don't have the campaign progress to get the new arti dagger, but will probably go with the flurry arti dagger and looking forward to the offhand too for that set. I think the dps boost from those wiil be pretty large.
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