Warlocks - How long will it go on for?

froszzt

I made a thread a month back about how broken Warlocks are in PvE.

I got a few sarcastic and none-constructive replies and then the thread died.

To be fair, it's mainly their daily Tyrannical Threat that is majorly broken. But it has been broken since SW came.
It received one fix early on. But it has since then been left pretty broken with the exception of the recently patched AP gain issue.

I am not a SW, but in my eyes it looks horribly broken when a 13k SW without gear or enchants just melts t3 mobs for 2-3 million dmg in 1-3 seconds. The result of this is that I never invite SW's to my parties, and if I am not in a full premade, and we get a SW, I call a votekick if they abuse TT. Wrong of me? Maybe, but I am sick of it. It's the only thing I can do since the devs refuse to fix TT.

As far as I can tell, TT just mirrors the damage back and forth between adds to infinity and blows them up. Shouldn't take more than a line of code to sort it out.......

And yes, I will get some sarcastic replies and none-constructive responses this time as well, but maybe a dev happens to glance over here on his coffee break. Better than doing nothing!

demonkyuubi

i don't see everyone's problem with tyrannical threat. been a while since i played my templock but wizards still out-dps me even if i try to spam it. although i can get more dps/healing if i just swap to the dps set but meh.

and it doesn't mirror the damage infinitely as it stops if i stop attacking

hoofit

Warlocks are quite easy to stun to death I'd say they are one of the most well balanced classes at this time.

chrcore

froszzt wrote: »

I made a thread a month back about how broken Warlocks are in PvE.

I got a few sarcastic and none-constructive replies and then the thread died.



I am not a SW, but in my eyes it looks horribly broken when a 13k SW without gear or enchants just melts t3 mobs for 2-3 million dmg in 1-3 seconds. The result of this is that I never invite SW's to my parties, and if I am not in a full premade, and we get a SW, I call a votekick if they abuse TT. Wrong of me? Maybe, but I am sick of it. It's the only thing I can do since the devs refuse to fix TT.

As far as I can tell, TT just mirrors the damage back and forth between adds to infinity and blows them up. Shouldn't take more than a line of code to sort it out.......

Better than doing nothing!

Your post is pretty much like doing nothing. You don't know how TT works and due to your lack of understanding think it's OP. It's situational at best. There are pretty much only 3 dungeons where it can be used with effectiveness and even then in limited situations.

But contrast that to a CW for example, that can regain AP significantly faster and do tons of damage with their dailies.

I smell a CW that is upset that he got out damaged on the DPS charts.

lazaroth666

froszzt wrote: »

The result of this is that I never invite SW's to my parties, and if I am not in a full premade, and we get a SW, I call a votekick if they abuse TT. Wrong of me? Maybe, but I am sick of it.

Gratz, you won the prize to the most stupid comment of the week. It's not the player's fault.

Guys, check his forum posts, almost each message posted by him is about how he's able to outdps everyone in PvE with his HR 22k GS except SW due to TT so he's a bit mad because he's not always top paingiver. I'm 100% I would outdps you in the new maps with my GWF, would you ask the devs to nerf the class even more? lol

Now, learn a couple of things today before asking for nerf the SW which only contribution for the group is full DPS or DPS/Support: What you are seeing with TT only happens after using Fiery Bolt and/or Killing Flames (feated) and only occurs in the new content LOL/SOT so it is not the daily but the mobs in these maps because you cannot replicate this behavior in another map so ask the devs to fix these maps instead of asking for unnecessary nerfs.

Do you want more information? Check this out: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?787201-Tyrannical-Threat-is-bugged-again

Finally, surely he doesn't accept SW in his parties but stacks at least 3 CWs.

burkaanc

yea but on those dungeons TT is seriously OP, if u dont believe try getting eLoL run with kolatmaster(he has a nice SW guide) dont know if hes the best SW but hes the best ive run with. on one run he more than 3x'd my 18k gs 10k power destro gwf dmg on other runs it was more like 2x+, hes BiS or close to it but still the difference is huge, i dont think a nerf is needed, but that ability might use some changes to do less on some dungeons and more on others

lazaroth666

burkaanc wrote: »

yea but on those dungeons TT is seriously OP, if u dont believe try getting eLoL run with kolatmaster(he has a nice SW guide) dont know if hes the best SW but hes the best ive run with. on one run he more than 3x'd my 18k gs 10k power destro gwf dmg on other runs it was more like 2x+, hes BiS or close to it but still the difference is huge, i dont think a nerf is needed, but that ability might use some changes to do less on some dungeons and more on others

I know how TT works in these maps, my SW have 20k GS and 11.3k power atm, I've done 2M+ in just 1 second to the scorpions i.e melting them in 3-5 secs usually but as I mentioned it's not TT itself but something related to the mobs, come on guys you know that there's something wrong with the map when the last group of foes have only lv 20.

lewstelamon01

Please check the thread concerning balance change requests.

If your idea of a fair change is "whatever makes me beat this or that class, or puts me at the top of the paingiver chart every time," then chances are that it's a thread which violates the rules.