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What to expect in pvp come mod 5
freshour
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As a Guardian. You can use protector, KV, and profound as it isn't broken, and basically hold your shield up the entire game. However, a DPS DC, granted they hit harder than you can, can sunburst you, and remove your KV before you hit the ground.
So lets go Conq. Your stats will be awesome, DPS will be GREAT. A TR will kill you before you get a single hit on them. A good TR by the way.
You will lose to an HR like we always have. You will not kill a DC, if they are DPS, they will kill you. If you fight a CW, you have a chance unless they are DPS spec and don't use the bugged 3k heal every half second capstone. GWF's it is a good fight, but a good gf > gwf because we can block all day.
Basically, you will be sunburst off every node, TR's will sneak in, hit you twice and kill you instantly. If you can gang up on someone and not be stunned by any hit of a TR, you will have a chance to sneak a kill.
Point - Do not spend a dime on mod 5, or you will regret it. Wait until the TR's damage is 1/4 of what it is, DC's sunburst doesn't go through shield,itc,unstoppable, and DC's are no longer invulnerable while in astral shield.
Good day
So lets go Conq. Your stats will be awesome, DPS will be GREAT. A TR will kill you before you get a single hit on them. A good TR by the way.
You will lose to an HR like we always have. You will not kill a DC, if they are DPS, they will kill you. If you fight a CW, you have a chance unless they are DPS spec and don't use the bugged 3k heal every half second capstone. GWF's it is a good fight, but a good gf > gwf because we can block all day.
Basically, you will be sunburst off every node, TR's will sneak in, hit you twice and kill you instantly. If you can gang up on someone and not be stunned by any hit of a TR, you will have a chance to sneak a kill.
Point - Do not spend a dime on mod 5, or you will regret it. Wait until the TR's damage is 1/4 of what it is, DC's sunburst doesn't go through shield,itc,unstoppable, and DC's are no longer invulnerable while in astral shield.
Good day
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Have the gear and skills, but lack the friends to play with? Come and apply for Essence of Aggression. We have been here and strong since beta. (Immature, rude, and arrogant people will not be accepted)
GF's need another 10-20% chance to deflect, I don't think our encounters need more damage, Griffons is bugged to hell and back, but our at-wills need a BIG buff. If you want us to be a tank, I'm fine with that, but this game is to a level of DPS that is just insane. I know you guys hated tenacity and are fazing it out, and that's fine. But guarded assault is weak against anything a CW if you hit SOS and have 5 greater tene's. I don't think many people have that...
One DC sunburst, with anyone dps'ing us, and it's over. I'm speaking from a higher level of pvp, but you will all see in a week when you go against a 5 man and wonder why you even play the game lol. The bottom line, our dps is good, but not enough to finish off other classes very well with the self healing that everyone other class has. We just don't gain the health back that everyone else does, our healing feats are AWFUL, 3-4 fold increase would make them MAYBE worth taking with their horrible cooldowns.
But please, please listen to me. High end pvp is so unbelieveably broken for a GF. We have no place with our only good quality being sunburst and removed. If you want to be viable, you must stand off the point away from the DC, and hold shift.... the entire match to keep your team alive. If that is your cup of tea, mod 5 GF is for you.
I love the class, but nerfing SOS, and nerfing KV to the ground, EXCEPT against a CW who just used an oppressive force while you have guarded assault up and blocking, was just too much. Our class is really just back in mod 1, while every other class is leagues above us. Take it from me that I have tried every set up, every path, and we fall short.
Dev's wanna make it intersting? Buff Tactician. Give it a 500% increase in AP because right now, it is a joke. Give anvil that stun of one second, make our prone feat work for stuns, and you will have a monster worth playing at higher levels. Give frontline it's prone back... Let us knock a TR on his a** if the 3 at wills don't kill us. But until we get some love, and some SERIOUS love... Our class is done for. But hey, PVE and PUBS are still there.
fixed tho
Control Wizard: Chaos Magic: This effect can no longer be incorrectly stacked in some cases. It will also no longer apply rapidly on powers that tick many times.
Every class, every patch. Buff Buff Buff... Oh ****.... Nerf Nerf Nerf.... ****ed...
Over and over and over. Its not gonna stop, they do not have the ability.
Wasn't sure if Mod 5 was out yet, thought I would check in to reaffirm my decision
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in terms of 1vs1
the GF doesn't stand a chance against HR/TRs for this reason.
they now both do high damage and they have piercing damage.
and besides doing high damage, they have plenty ways of dodgin and surviving a fight
HR can prone you/dodge/disrupt your attacks and probably even more
TR can dodge/stealth and have a unstopable (itc)
so yeah.. it's pretty hard to hit or even do a rotation on somethin that 90% out of time you can't even see/ have the chance.
this happens with GWF vs TR/HR.
and a fight between GF vs GWf and GF vs CW . is pretty balanced without builds such as intimidation / or renegade.
So since the GF has no chance 1x1 vs a TR/HR - one being OP ever since introduced and the other made OP in Mod 5, you propose a buff to the class. Awesome. What will that accomplish ? Any of you blind, little kids who can only think in terms of " my class must erase all others " have an idea that this is exactly the type of thinking which leads to imbalance. Buffing the GF or any other so he can take on the broken HR/TR means the GF itself becomes broken when facing CW/GWF/DC/SW.. That is not the way to go
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
Uh? A good fight? mod4/mod5 gwf is a MiniMe for a GF. And that's the Senti with his OP inti that delivers 18k damage. Destr/Insti, you won't even notice, it's like stepping on an ant.
Yes, 1k damage for 1k gs. Probably the said gwf was a 18k Senti. For the record, TRs, SWs hit for half a million HP. It's not "Gwfs'a are killin" (your bad grammar), it's gwfs are free kills.
What is this nonsense? GF can not kill a DC now at all, and a SW GWF and CW are extremely hard to beat and all capable of killing a GF almost instant minus the SW not quite instant for them but still fast enough. If you do not understand GF is the bottom of the barrel at the moment then you have not been paying attention for quite a while.
What needs to happen is to some significant buffs to GF and some nerfs to TR and HR and DC to bring everyone in line.