I hit a milestone tonight, a total of 700 runs of eShores.
Total goodies gained
700 scrolls
700 rank 5s
12 dragon gems (3 from the Dragon Key chest)
and a buttload of useless helmets and shields
no belt
no books
not even from the boss drop
All ran on the same character.
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the RNG in this game fails so hard XD
Little bit disillusioned by not pulling my own belt though
I did however manage to get the belt I wanted/needed via purchasing 10x Tyrant's Artifact Provisions packs on the AH for about 1.7mil in total, so there's that... It's just crappy that those whom aren't blessed need to travel such avenues to obtain their belts.
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If you want a belt just grind AD and hit the AH. Really. The RNG is extremely low and then odds are it will not drop the belt you want. Since most grinds are more profitable than Shores it is actually the worst way to get a belt.
I hit a milestone tonight, a total of 700 runs of eShores.
Total goodies gained
700 scrolls
700 rank 5s
12 dragon gems (3 from the Dragon Key chest)
and a buttload of useless helmets and shields
no belt
no books
not even from the boss drop
All ran on the same character.
Congrats. I have a similar record, but less runs. That is, 20 runs for as many rank5s and scrolls.
They should make their Respen event depend on that. "If someone ever gets a book from (e)SoT then we will rerun a Respen event"
Had to use the fingers and toes of everyone I knew though :rolleyes:
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I know them feels. Now I only do eSoT long enough to get the Draconic offhand on a character these days, and then move on to eLoL, which is less aggravating. That said, no books or belts on any of them, or from the dragons (I hate to think about how many "great success" messages I've seen on those, too). It's a little disheartening.
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darthpotaterMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,259Arc User
edited October 2014
My theory is that the chance is not fair, Is affected by some kind of parameters, but is just that, speculation. This theory is also for artifact drops in bosses (valindra, MC, etc.)
Parameters that are in my mind:
Time of the run (more time = more chance)
Enemies not killed (if you skip content = less chance)
GS of the party / player
ADs of the players
Other parameters that benefit less geared / experimented players
My theory is that the chance is not fair, Is affected by some kind of parameters, but is just that, speculation. This theory is also for artifact drops in bosses (valindra, MC, etc.)
Parameters that are in my mind:
Time of the run (more time = more chance)
Enemies not killed (if you skip content = less chance)
GS of the party / player
ADs of the players
Other parameters that benefit less geared / experimented players
...except that all that would take alot of actual programming logic compared to simply:
if RNG < 0.1% drop artifact
Really doesnt matter because mod 5 brings new artifact belts, 2 new main hands (so a total of 5 main hands) purchased at a vendor with shards of dragon something something.. some new currency (need 5 of them) and new offhands. I wouldnt waste any more time and take a break.. but the RP items you got will come in handy.
silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
edited October 2014
Ive probably done 2-300 runs 4 toons/ with 1 total gem, on the FIRST run I ever did, and nothing since then. Ive alternated between normal and epic and really no difference in loot drops.
Overall rate drops are JUST to low, thats the key issue, it really doesnt matter about any other conjecture.
Simply put, you might as WELL not open either of them honestly, and just let others run it and buy stuff from them .
Which is sad, but that seems to be how cryptic works now, open things that have no use doing, run them, even though they are worthless and be happy.
If your not happy, dont post your unhappiness, because thats against ToS for some reason =P .
The game is good, the game is great, if you dont like that saying, you can...
My theory is that the chance is not fair, Is affected by some kind of parameters, but is just that, speculation. This theory is also for artifact drops in bosses (valindra, MC, etc.)
Parameters that are in my mind:
Time of the run (more time = more chance)
Enemies not killed (if you skip content = less chance)
GS of the party / player
ADs of the players
Other parameters that benefit less geared / experimented players
/conspiration
There is no conspiracy theory.
They made PVE content a complete joke so even the most horrible casual player can complete it with ease. They gate the rewards with horrible RNG so that players who have invested time and have skill do not benefit from doing them too efficiently.
Really doesnt matter because mod 5 brings new artifact belts, 2 new main hands (so a total of 5 main hands) purchased at a vendor with shards of dragon something something.. some new currency (need 5 of them) and new offhands. I wouldnt waste any more time and take a break.. but the RP items you got will come in handy.
Preview is bugged for me (again) do you buy the off-hands with this new currency? Or are they RNG again?
done about 40 runs of Elol, gotten 2 dragon gems and 1 int belt which I was lucky enough to win the roll for:) Sold the **** thing, for 4,5 million, since I couldn't really be bothered to try and level it up along my artifact weapon, pretty glad I did since the new belts are gonna be way better than the old ones...
Doing epic Shores is utterly pointless unless you need the Draconic set or just want "a challenge" (heh)
Normal Shores is:
1. Much faster
2. Can drop Shores jewelry set
3. Same droprate on books, gems, artifact belts
Of course that will change with Module 5, but right now, normal Shores is the way to go
It's not just the Draconic armour set though (which is deeply "meh" for most classes), but the weapon set, which is pretty decent (nice damage range, which is important)- the offhand comes from epic Shores. It's a good "quick fix" for people not yet ready to take the artifact weapon, plus the offhand often has more sensible secondary stats than the mainhand, for when you do.
That said, you're basically right. Hit LoL during the DD, ideally. It's less aggravating, and somewhat more rewarding.
done about 40 runs of Elol, gotten 2 dragon gems and 1 int belt which I was lucky enough to win the roll for:) Sold the **** thing, for 4,5 million, since I couldn't really be bothered to try and level it up along my artifact weapon, pretty glad I did since the new belts are gonna be way better than the old ones...
Well as the saying gos a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush
Even in mod 5 I am still pretty sure that owlbear belt wouldve been one of the better items for the slot. The belt is currently not even remotely necessary for pve (though I do have a legendary con belt on my sw) xD But yeah probably better off selling it this late in the mod as you won't get much use from it now
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I don't know what to say tbh. I don't think there's much to say but to look at the sky and think about life.
Little bit disillusioned by not pulling my own belt though
I did however manage to get the belt I wanted/needed via purchasing 10x Tyrant's Artifact Provisions packs on the AH for about 1.7mil in total, so there's that... It's just crappy that those whom aren't blessed need to travel such avenues to obtain their belts.
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or other information which may be considered objectionable.
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I object to your objection
Congrats. I have a similar record, but less runs. That is, 20 runs for as many rank5s and scrolls.
They should make their Respen event depend on that. "If someone ever gets a book from (e)SoT then we will rerun a Respen event"
Had to use the fingers and toes of everyone I knew though :rolleyes:
Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication
or other information which may be considered objectionable.
A Tool used by those with power to stay in power.
I object to your objection
Parameters that are in my mind:
Time of the run (more time = more chance)
Enemies not killed (if you skip content = less chance)
GS of the party / player
ADs of the players
Other parameters that benefit less geared / experimented players
/conspiration
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Elemental Evil Survivor
Undermontain Survivor
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...except that all that would take alot of actual programming logic compared to simply:
if RNG < 0.1% drop artifact
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Yay! More new currencies, I was just thinking the other day how we need some new currencies.
No... wait... I wasn't.
I think this game has more currencies than we have in real-life on the planet.
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Overall rate drops are JUST to low, thats the key issue, it really doesnt matter about any other conjecture.
Simply put, you might as WELL not open either of them honestly, and just let others run it and buy stuff from them
Which is sad, but that seems to be how cryptic works now, open things that have no use doing, run them, even though they are worthless and be happy.
If your not happy, dont post your unhappiness, because thats against ToS for some reason =P .
The game is good, the game is great, if you dont like that saying, you can...
Ill let you finish that line =P.
I've gotten 4 in about 30-40 skirmishes (Normal Tuern), then I went 3 for 3 on Artifact Weapons (meaning I got all 3 in 3 tries no duplicates).
I've killed about 200 dragons and nothing better than a Dragon Cult Headdress.
I have seen one plated belt drop from the Normal Tuern boss, didn't win it.
There is no conspiracy theory.
They made PVE content a complete joke so even the most horrible casual player can complete it with ease. They gate the rewards with horrible RNG so that players who have invested time and have skill do not benefit from doing them too efficiently.
Preview is bugged for me (again) do you buy the off-hands with this new currency? Or are they RNG again?
It's listed as coming from "The Temple of Tiamat [Epic]". Not sure if that means it's a 0.00001% drop from the chest like previous artifacts.
1 dragon gem
2 useless purples
0 belts
0 books
it's a f'n joke. I bought my 2nd gem (because I didn't get the artifact weapon I wanted the first time, naturally) because LOL hell no.
Normal Shores is:
1. Much faster
2. Can drop Shores jewelry set
3. Same droprate on books, gems, artifact belts
Of course that will change with Module 5, but right now, normal Shores is the way to go
It's not just the Draconic armour set though (which is deeply "meh" for most classes), but the weapon set, which is pretty decent (nice damage range, which is important)- the offhand comes from epic Shores. It's a good "quick fix" for people not yet ready to take the artifact weapon, plus the offhand often has more sensible secondary stats than the mainhand, for when you do.
That said, you're basically right. Hit LoL during the DD, ideally. It's less aggravating, and somewhat more rewarding.
Well as the saying gos a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush
Even in mod 5 I am still pretty sure that owlbear belt wouldve been one of the better items for the slot. The belt is currently not even remotely necessary for pve (though I do have a legendary con belt on my sw) xD But yeah probably better off selling it this late in the mod as you won't get much use from it now
Mara Angelbane - 22k Thaum CW, Vaya Con Dios 15.2k Dragon CW.
Mara Shadowskiss - 21.5k Destroyer GWF, Mara - 17.2k Sentinel GWF
Mara Duskwalker - 15.4k Healing DC
Mara Hawkeye -14.6k HR
Mara Spiritforge - 16.9k Tanky GF
Bad Religion - 14.7k Pew Pew DC
Mara Shadowstouch,Maara - TR's