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GWF Instigator Path

nezraalnezraal Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2014 in The Militia Barracks
The Tree

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Edit: Don't use 5/5 Wicked Strike, Sure Strike works better. Use 5/5 in some other feature instead of 4th column.

Battle Trample or Enhanced Mark - which one & why?

Encounters & Powers

Rotation 1: FLS > TR > TD > IBS
Rotation 2: FLS > TR > TD > Not so fast + 2x Wicked Strike (possible and better?)
Rotation 3: TR > TD > IBS > FLS > 2x Wicked Strike
Rotation 4: TR > TD > Not so Fast + 1xWicked > FLS > 2x Wicked Strike (possible?)

Edit After some testing:

Rotation: TD > NSF > RS (works 100% times the attacks connected)
You can launch all 3 attacks with one successful takedown - it's quite safe.

The cool down time of NSF , the extra stamina gain, the slow down of opponent character and your gain speed makes up a substitute build for Perma-runner on BF.

Sure Strike (correction) , Threatening Rush
Savage Advance
Trample the fallen & Bravery, edit : use the "new" ferocious

Gears

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4x Purified Set
PvP rings + cloak (13 pvp achievements)
CON belt

Dragon's Wrath is giving a bit of defense (1.65k hp + 400 def) in substitution for fast determination (in destroyer path) plus extra added defense from wicked strike. This build, any good? I am not a big fan of deflect and I think ~30% is enough for GWF.
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  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited October 2014
    http://nwcalc.com/gwf?b=cn4:13ydj4:13ydj4,13ni12i:15z501:100000:15u000&h=0&p=ivn

    this is how i see this build, SS+TD with BF-FLS-IBS(RS), if you stop you;re dead , pump crit and dex as much as you can. Pretty much opponent must die in 1-2 rotations. Profound gear fits perfect imo.

    i would love to play this kind of build with reaping strike.. too bad is not usable since you can get cced.
  • nezraalnezraal Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ortzhy wrote: »
    http://nwcalc.com/gwf?b=cn4:13ydj4:13ydj4,13ni12i:15z501:100000:15u000&h=0&p=ivn

    this is how i see this build, SS+TD with BF-FLS-IBS(RS), if you stop you;re dead , pump crit and dex as much as you can. Pretty much opponent must die in 1-2 rotations. Profound gear fits perfect imo.

    i would love to play this kind of build with reaping strike.. too bad is not usable since you can get cced.

    For critical rate style:

    1. "Profound gear fits perfect imo" - maybe, 2 Profound & 2 Purified BI (Helmet + Bracers) for overload slot or 2 Corrupted / 2 Purified Set. I think this is a better choice.

    2. Deflect, well I don't feel too comfortable with high deflect, I would switch them to power, hp or defense.

    May be your TREE build, but cut the 10% deflect on sprint and get an extra 0.5s FLS duration? Could be enough for a FLS > TR > RS > TD > IBS (very strong). I would also like to keep an extra stun with me in-case that FLS fails, it's high cd - because without the stun landing IBS can be difficult. BF > TD > IBS is different in destroyer because the TD has a 5s cd and even faster cd if it doesn't connect.

    Again, not sure - thinking of other possibilities.
  • chemboy613chemboy613 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I have a little SM Instigator i play around sometimes, i think the combat advantage and wicked strike bonus are nice, but i don't play her much.

    Like the leap and NSF bonuses - leap no target limit btw.

    Glad to see someone else is giving this path a little love.
  • effectensteineffectenstein Member Posts: 1,031 Bounty Hunter
    edited October 2014
    the build for pvp what have u done there , not gonna do it m8 .
    first of all
    not so fast feat isn't worth it for pvp
    wicked strike feat isn't working for pvp

    the encounters should be FLS / TD / IBS

    feats : student of the sword / vicious advantage / nibmle runner / reinforced surge and the instigator capstone
    1 point in deepgash and 4 in Great weapon focus

    5 points in Unstopable recovery

    as class feats : Bravery + Feracious Reaction
    Purified set + legendary ferocity weapon and offhand.
    Constitution belt
    + lathandar neck

    u can pick 2 rings either rings of evasion / shielding.

    waters/devoted as actives.

    Sure strike / Threating rush.

    stack alot of HP , and thats all i can say.
    to make instigator viable.
  • nezraalnezraal Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    the build for pvp what have u done there , not gonna do it m8 .
    first of all
    not so fast feat isn't worth it for pvp
    wicked strike feat isn't working for pvp

    the encounters should be FLS / TD / IBS

    feats : student of the sword / vicious advantage / nibmle runner / reinforced surge and the instigator capstone
    1 point in deepgash and 4 in Great weapon focus

    5 points in Unstopable recovery

    as class feats : Bravery + Feracious Reaction
    Purified set + legendary ferocity weapon and offhand.
    Constitution belt
    + lathandar neck

    u can pick 2 rings either rings of evasion / shielding.

    waters/devoted as actives.

    Sure strike / Threating rush.

    stack alot of HP , and thats all i can say.
    to make instigator viable.

    Sure Strike - yes, made correction above.
    Do not use NSF - no, use it - TD > NSF > RS - not too bad, I think. The nice thing about this rotation is, you can launch any attack independently. NSF by the way has a nice AOE, super fast animation, great cd and more damage than FLS (by quite a margin with the 5/5 feat). Also the miss % of ibs is negligible compared to landing td > ibs or fls > ibs.

    You can launch TD > NSF > RS in one rotation in a very short time, while your opponent will still be under NSF and you have extra run speed (first column) - you can extra sure strikes with trample the fallen under effect.

    The main problem with the tree is it's lacking defense. One of it's feat need to be modified with some kind of defense buff, for example, while under Combat Advantage there is 3/6/9/12/15% damage resist from all sources. If they did something like this I think the tree would be viable. Using RS on 11s cool down adds some hp, stamina and of course, you have to use 4x purified set.

    In destroyer path for example, you have fast determination build and even better is the 4th,5th column on sentinel. Not a big fan of deflect, keeping it at, approximately 30% is sufficient for me.
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