Teach and old dog new tricks? - GF PVE

freshour

As most of you know, the new meta of completely changing full gear setups, old gear sets being 100% neutralized, new artifacts, new artifact equipment (don't get me started), abilities and feats being made overpowered and then nerfed to oblivion conveniently after I spend money to rank something up.... I think it is time I stop competitively pvp'ing and switch to PVE because it is free, and way less stressful.


So - I haven't went hardcore PVE since Castle Never was actually difficult, so I am a bit out of the loop. I was curious what setups people are running. If it is 100% party buffer, tank, KV and fighters recovery style? Are there any DPS options that can tip the scale and make the DPS GF worth it?

- Please, only real feedback. I have played since beta, I know the class in and out pretty well, I was just trying to figure out what people are rollin these days and think it could be a lot more fun than 5 million AD per artifact equipment that will be rendered useless the next patch lol.

Thanks guys

- Dom is officially signing out of competitive PVP.

schweifer1982

You cant do DPS with GF forget it .
The only trick is if you have enugh AD to make 1/3 Dps of CW you can survive the add swarm if not then its not worth to try to DPS.
Conq is only good for player with enugh money or AD.

Gf have realy bad stats in Crit Arp and Power he need tons of hp and he need tons of LS .
DPS of GF
22k GF+perfect enchant +stone = 10k well played CW no weapon enchant no stone.

freshour

Currently, I am in almost all rank 10's, I have a perfect Vorpal for DPS or lightning for more AOE procs (was good for SOS in pvp), Full purified and corrupt, and dragon, timeless, high general, all three pvp sets, not sure what others I have, I use the DC artifact, I have the book, crystal, waters, and GWF arti as well all either maxed or in the 80's, so gear is not TOO big of an issue, it is the future gear that I am not really looking forward to having to get and level so that is why I was going to try PVE.

I guess the days of Villains Menace and Cleaving for an *** load of damage are over lol?

schweifer1982

First of all .
Use ITF always and whatch your encounters use it only if both are up .

I like SM cuz WM deal 10 times more dps then clave and you can use CS for single target.
Also i use CS & GA combo if i need to block at least i will deal some DPS.
Daly VM & Cresccendo.
Encounters :LS & ET
I am sure you will figure it out .

freshour

So there is absolutely nothing to it then lol? - I was just curious if there was anything special about it or anything I needed to be aware of. Traditionally I know it's been WAY easier to go from PVP to PVE than the other way around. But thank you for all the info

damnacious

One of the Conqueror builds I tested on Preview I believe is still viable as a PVE tank. I don't actually believe Conqueror spec GFs can't tank, just that there needs to be some focus on defensive stats over some offensive ones and the knowledge and skill to go with it.
Regardless of your Path any GF can tank in PVE successfully. For example, I'd be inclined to stack Recovery / Tenebrous and Defense / HP and use a KV + ItF rotation to boost your DR and DPS. You will be losing out on a bit of survivability offered by other Paths but this should be almost balanced out by your increase in DPS. From my experience, you would want to feat Armor Specialization and aim for about 52.2% base DR. This should increase your damage by 60% with ItF and max cap your DR at 80% with KV. Stacking Recovery will increase ItF uptime and hence your DPS. Draconic set would work reasonably well (not tested it on a Conq. build) I believe and should provide you with enough ArP to hit 24% RI.
For all but the new content Timeless should still be fine to use as a tank set depending on your skill. For the new content, having the max DR is really useful and the bonus from Draconic + KV goes a long way towards keeping the rest of the party up, especially when you're increasing their damage output by up to 60%.
I wouldn't consider giving up on either PVP or Conqueror just yet though. I think there is still a lot more our class has to offer and can provide.

freshour

Yeah I understand that. I didn't mean altogether, I just meant no more going for that top GF mentality in a premade. I can't spend 20 dollars in paypal for RP per item with new ones coming out each week lol. So PVE just seems to be more relaxing.

I know you are our GF advocate, and depending on how much they will actually listen to us, compared to it just being a way to keep us a little more quiet, I'd love to see some skill return to the class and to pvp in general for that matter. There are just too many easy buttons and I can't sit there and theory craft on what a gold mine Cryptic has here that they are just pissing away with every single patch lol, I swear it is depressing to think about how good this game could have been.

But thanks for the info, I'll have to give her a rip later and see if it is even fun to do PVE on a GF these days

query523

ITF has become something of a must. The main difficulty you will run into in delves is that the new reflect build is so popular newer players will not understand why you are not sitting in a corner holding up a shield, spamming KV the whole way. But as an old-school GF you can likely find some old-school chums to delve with who will understand what you are doing

xd108x

Seems a lot of people who play PvE in NW don't understand the role of a tank/GF in a party sadly so they expect you to just follow them around as they charge into enemies as fast as they want without a regard for rest of group, and just expect you to be there buffing them with ITF and/or KV just to protect/encourage them from acting this way

For me buffing the party is optional and not always needed as a tank as it not our main role in a group, but nice to have the option when it's necessary, for example I wouldn't use ITF unless I felt the movement and/or dmg boost was needed for the party to beat the dungeon/boss. KV I tend to only use when I feel the party is going to be taking unnavoidable dmg e.g. vs Valindra or if most of the party is melee and more likely to be getting hit.

If you want to actually tank like was probably needed in the old school days of CN (which I wasnt around for sadly) then it is possible and definately helps in the newer dungeons and some of the old ones. The challenge is finding good people to party with who actually understand the role of a tank in a party and let you play your role, which is a rare thing