Black Opal is that rare? I must now laugh as one dropped while testing my latest Foundry quest and when it did I was first thinking "where the heck did THAT come from?" I totally forgot I have the Dragon Hoard re-equipped on that character.
opals are weird, 2 times ive gotten 2 in a row, then nothing for a long while
refinement is cheap, ~ 1AD/point, though im saving all of mine til i get enough for weapon, need 3.6 mil total QQ, would be enough if we got another double RP
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ironzerg79Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,942Arc User
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I killed a guy in Domination last night. He "pooped" a Black Opal for me as he died.
I killed a guy in Domination last night. He "pooped" a Black Opal for me as he died.
How nice!
I always forget that I have Hoard enchantment in belt too. So when you kill somebody in pvp it is funny that they "HAMSTER" Peridots mostly and some Black Opals)) I think I accualy seen more opals "pooped" in pvp rather then pve )
i wasnt killing on cd most of the time, just listening to audiobooks, reading forums, coming by and killing a few mobs while doing stuff at home etc. some i got from doing daily quests
in total more than ten days. mistborn are 80 hours but some of that time was spent doing ToD/IWD daily quests and few dungeons/skirmishes
just did 15min test, got 28k rp but with 1 opal so it might be 80~100k / hour of hard farming
but i have 2 dragon and 1 fay so i get rank4's on top of it
i wasnt killing on cd most of the time, just listening to audiobooks, reading forums, coming by and killing a few mobs while doing stuff at home etc. some i got from doing daily quests
in total more than ten days. mistborn are 80 hours but some of that time was spent doing ToD/IWD daily quests and few dungeons/skirmishes
just did 15min test, got 28k rp but with 1 opal so it might be 80~100k / hour of hard farming
but i have 2 dragon and 1 fay so i get rank4's on top of it
That is very interesting, but I hope they do not nerf the drop values now, thinking they are too generous. The Dragon Horde is the best enchant I have, but I do not farm with it 8 hours a day.
Although I am very pleased with the Black Opal and several Sapphires I have got in the last six weeks, I'd hate to the see the chances drastically reduced.
did some farming(Audio books FTW) with Lesser Dragon Hoard, heres how drop rate looks like
total drops 2097, total RP 1 904 700(unless i fd up my excel table)
Dear TS, where did you do your farming for these drops? Am in the process of upgrading my artifact weapon as well as I missed the double RP event and would greatly appreciate any sharings on good farming slots using dragon hoards.
Dear TS, where did you do your farming for these drops? Am in the process of upgrading my artifact weapon as well as I missed the double RP event and would greatly appreciate any sharings on good farming slots using dragon hoards.
Thanks in advance.
Give it a few weeks, and the bots will officially have crashed the peridot market... Bought a few stacks of peridots for 35k last night on the AH.
Some people(might be flippers, might be the bots) have tried keeping the Price of peridots stable around 50k, but they cant keep up with the constant stream of new peridots introduced on the market, so yeah predict the Price will drop to around 10k in a few weeks.
Dear TS, where did you do your farming for these drops? Am in the process of upgrading my artifact weapon as well as I missed the double RP event and would greatly appreciate any sharings on good farming slots using dragon hoards.
Thanks in advance.
in foundry
i have 2 lesser
and i hope the bots crash RP market, 4.6mil RP for weapon, same for belt, 3.8mil for artifact is just plain stupid
RP prices were 2AD/RP not so long ago, even at 1AD/RP its over 20mil points, where can a legit(not one of those "lucky") players get that kind of money ? ok you can play market etc, but thats boring and u still need a lot of ad to start
Sooooo... that's where all the peridots are coming from... I suspect the drop rate will be stealth-nerfed (probably swapped with 20% white pearl, as I don't think it was intentional to make peridots drop more than white pearls)
Sooooo... that's where all the peridots are coming from... I suspect the drop rate will be stealth-nerfed (probably swapped with 20% white pearl, as I don't think it was intentional to make peridots drop more than white pearls)
imho they should drop pearls since the 100rp is useless when u need 100k+/lvl, buff aquamarine drops and nerf sapphire and opal drops to keep ~900 rp/drop average like it is now
Does the level of opponents affect the drops? I have been killing mobs in blacklake district for a few minutes and I got 9 Peridots and 6 White Pearls.
Does the level of opponents affect the drops? I have been killing mobs in blacklake district for a few minutes and I got 9 Peridots and 6 White Pearls.
I think so. In my experience lower level mobs seem more likely to drop lower RP items.
Does the level of opponents affect the drops? I have been killing mobs in blacklake district for a few minutes and I got 9 Peridots and 6 White Pearls.
I find that hard to believe. I have a Rank 8. Do you have a Rank 10? Or nothing at all?
I don't get anything approaching 15 drops in a "few minutes". It seems to fit the 2% chance it is supposed to have - sometimes I get nothing for several hours, and sometimes I may get two or even three within 20 minutes, and then nothing for a few hours, or maybe one.
I find that hard to believe. I have a Rank 8. Do you have a Rank 10? Or nothing at all?
I don't get anything approaching 15 drops in a "few minutes". It seems to fit the 2% chance it is supposed to have - sometimes I get nothing for several hours, and sometimes I may get two or even three within 20 minutes, and then nothing for a few hours, or maybe one.
Around 15-30 minutes (I wasn't sure for how long I had been there so I wrote "few minutes", which is less than an hour). My drop chance is 3%.
Yesterday I tried running with 3 lesser Hoards during 6 hours and got only 16,800 RP. Yes, I wasn't really farming nonstop (just doing ToD dailies for myself and helping to do the same for my guildmates). Let it be even 3 hours of really punching mobs; let it be my general poor luck - but still... 8 pearls, 5 peridots, 1 aquamarine, 4 minor and 4 lesser resonators during such period is just laughable. I got more RP from random enchantment drops than from these 3 Hoards.
Am I missing something or just stupid enough to believe this thread?
Well I just played for more than 6 hours, did Professions, some PvP and then put the Rank 8 Dragon Horde enchant on my WK TR.
I soloed through The Temple of the Spider, but could not get past the final Boss. She just kept healing herself too much. But I spent about 4 hours in that dungeon, and all I got was a Minor Resonance Stone, a Lesser Resonance Stone from the mobs, and two peridots that dropped in the final Boss room. That was after clearing every single area in the dungeon. I got more RP from chests and nodes.
Although some maps do not seem to drop anything at your feet at all, this was a pretty poor drop rate. It is usually better than that.
I have 3 lesser dragon hoards in my pve armor.I sometimes farm enchantements in the spider area of the blighted grove in sharandar.endless numbers of powries there.In 20-30 min of farming i might,might get 2 peridots and 1-2 pearls.
Yesterday i was running dungeons with legit.And what of a sudden a black opal in my feet.But i was running dungeons for 1-2 hours.
In the beggining of Mod4 i had much much better drops.I think dragon hoard was ninja nerfed.
That is exactly my point.
The drop rate for these enchantment is just unsatisfiable.
And as usual with my luck, I chose to switch just when they were nerfed
Maybe I need to start earning AD from those who want smth to be nerfed by simple addressing it...
All they have to do is reduce or remove foundry drops for this enchantment. I assume a lot of the bots work that way so that they can guarantee finding a mob on cool-down. Yes I know this will be another indirect nerf for Foundry players, but the alternative is even worse for everyone.
I've had a single Lesser Dragon's Hoard on my L60 SW for about 3 weeks. The first week, doing mostly daily campaign progression (no foundry or farming) a couple Sapphire, 2 or 3 blue resonance stones and an Opal dropped. There were some Aquamarine and various lesser stones. I'd have to say that it paid for itself rather quickly...NOT what I was expecting!
Now, however, it has been 2 weeks and I'm lucky to see a Peridot twice a day or a single common resonance stone once a day. Not sure what to make of that lol. Stopped me from equipping or buying any additional ones for now.
I suspect that the 1% chance for drops apply to a 'kill' that you actually landed the killing blow to. This could make the drop rates seen vary wildly depending on where you are active in combat. Maybe I've just had bad luck at landing killing blows this week?
A somewhat related observation: The Salvager's enchant seems generally unpopular, but my character that has 2 R5 equipped gets a reasonable drop rate of blue and purple bags. The items inside are quite often teir3 profession materials, buff potions and Major Injury Kits. It's no Dragon Hoard enchant but I find those items useful.
Yes you have to have the kill shot for any enchantment of this type to work, dragon's hoard, fey blessing, thymora's etc. If you do not get the kill shot it will not trigger. That was tested when fey blessing enchants came out. It is somewhere buried deep in the forums.
All they have to do is reduce or remove foundry drops for this enchantment. I assume a lot of the bots work that way so that they can guarantee finding a mob on cool-down. Yes I know this will be another indirect nerf for Foundry players, but the alternative is even worse for everyone.
The alternative meaning cheap RP that isn't at poorly balanced figures? *cough* blood rubies.
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//runs to check resale value at AH...
refinement is cheap, ~ 1AD/point, though im saving all of mine til i get enough for weapon, need 3.6 mil total QQ, would be enough if we got another double RP
How nice!
I always forget that I have Hoard enchantment in belt too. So when you kill somebody in pvp it is funny that they "HAMSTER" Peridots mostly and some Black Opals)) I think I accualy seen more opals "pooped" in pvp rather then pve )
around how much time it took you to collect that data?
i wasnt killing on cd most of the time, just listening to audiobooks, reading forums, coming by and killing a few mobs while doing stuff at home etc. some i got from doing daily quests
in total more than ten days. mistborn are 80 hours but some of that time was spent doing ToD/IWD daily quests and few dungeons/skirmishes
just did 15min test, got 28k rp but with 1 opal so it might be 80~100k / hour of hard farming
but i have 2 dragon and 1 fay so i get rank4's on top of it
thats not bad tbh
Although I am very pleased with the Black Opal and several Sapphires I have got in the last six weeks, I'd hate to the see the chances drastically reduced.
Were they the 2% Dragon's Hoard, giving you a total of 4%?
Dear TS, where did you do your farming for these drops? Am in the process of upgrading my artifact weapon as well as I missed the double RP event and would greatly appreciate any sharings on good farming slots using dragon hoards.
Thanks in advance.
Give it a few weeks, and the bots will officially have crashed the peridot market... Bought a few stacks of peridots for 35k last night on the AH.
Some people(might be flippers, might be the bots) have tried keeping the Price of peridots stable around 50k, but they cant keep up with the constant stream of new peridots introduced on the market, so yeah predict the Price will drop to around 10k in a few weeks.
in foundry
i have 2 lesser
and i hope the bots crash RP market, 4.6mil RP for weapon, same for belt, 3.8mil for artifact is just plain stupid
RP prices were 2AD/RP not so long ago, even at 1AD/RP its over 20mil points, where can a legit(not one of those "lucky") players get that kind of money ? ok you can play market etc, but thats boring and u still need a lot of ad to start
Sooooo... that's where all the peridots are coming from... I suspect the drop rate will be stealth-nerfed (probably swapped with 20% white pearl, as I don't think it was intentional to make peridots drop more than white pearls)
imho they should drop pearls since the 100rp is useless when u need 100k+/lvl, buff aquamarine drops and nerf sapphire and opal drops to keep ~900 rp/drop average like it is now
I think so. In my experience lower level mobs seem more likely to drop lower RP items.
I will agree with this, while doing dailies i constantly get white pearls and such but when doing dungeons i never get pearls only perdiots and above.
I find that hard to believe. I have a Rank 8. Do you have a Rank 10? Or nothing at all?
I don't get anything approaching 15 drops in a "few minutes". It seems to fit the 2% chance it is supposed to have - sometimes I get nothing for several hours, and sometimes I may get two or even three within 20 minutes, and then nothing for a few hours, or maybe one.
Yesterday I tried running with 3 lesser Hoards during 6 hours and got only 16,800 RP. Yes, I wasn't really farming nonstop (just doing ToD dailies for myself and helping to do the same for my guildmates). Let it be even 3 hours of really punching mobs; let it be my general poor luck - but still... 8 pearls, 5 peridots, 1 aquamarine, 4 minor and 4 lesser resonators during such period is just laughable. I got more RP from random enchantment drops than from these 3 Hoards.
Am I missing something or just stupid enough to believe this thread?
I soloed through The Temple of the Spider, but could not get past the final Boss. She just kept healing herself too much. But I spent about 4 hours in that dungeon, and all I got was a Minor Resonance Stone, a Lesser Resonance Stone from the mobs, and two peridots that dropped in the final Boss room. That was after clearing every single area in the dungeon. I got more RP from chests and nodes.
Although some maps do not seem to drop anything at your feet at all, this was a pretty poor drop rate. It is usually better than that.
I do not believe the OP.
Yesterday i was running dungeons with legit.And what of a sudden a black opal in my feet.But i was running dungeons for 1-2 hours.
In the beggining of Mod4 i had much much better drops.I think dragon hoard was ninja nerfed.
The drop rate for these enchantment is just unsatisfiable.
And as usual with my luck, I chose to switch just when they were nerfed
Maybe I need to start earning AD from those who want smth to be nerfed by simple addressing it...
Now, however, it has been 2 weeks and I'm lucky to see a Peridot twice a day or a single common resonance stone once a day. Not sure what to make of that lol. Stopped me from equipping or buying any additional ones for now.
I suspect that the 1% chance for drops apply to a 'kill' that you actually landed the killing blow to. This could make the drop rates seen vary wildly depending on where you are active in combat. Maybe I've just had bad luck at landing killing blows this week?
A somewhat related observation: The Salvager's enchant seems generally unpopular, but my character that has 2 R5 equipped gets a reasonable drop rate of blue and purple bags. The items inside are quite often teir3 profession materials, buff potions and Major Injury Kits. It's no Dragon Hoard enchant but I find those items useful.
The alternative meaning cheap RP that isn't at poorly balanced figures? *cough* blood rubies.