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geeq5
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Yeah that right, it back to normal.
For those that thought that "Flippers" were the ones responsible for the backlog, and that they wont allow the backlog to go down.
For those that thought that "Flippers" were the ones responsible for the backlog, and that they wont allow the backlog to go down.
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I'm shocked but still consider that what they did should have been ban worthy if I ran things.
Who thought that? I think most people on the forum at least knew full well that the backlog was created by the Astral Resonator exploit.
But yeah , so much for the abusive armchair economists who were so eager to raise or get rid of the exchange cap altogether , shows what they know.
But you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever that anyone did any such thing at all. So it's a good job that you run nothing.
Even if he did have evidence, it still wouldnt be right to banned them, because they didnt exploit, glitch, or bug the game.
Now Gold spammers, and Exploiters those are the ones that deserve to get banned.
But to each their own.
Why would you banned them?
Why, we can't have rich people staying rich! Being rich is of course a crime. How dare they have stuff, and even *gasp* using their wealth it 100% legit way!
Hahahaha...that was so funny!
I see! makes sense.
I guess the rich legit players have to suffer for us broke players.
How did they affect your life?
I would appreciate it if you dont mind answering with some details.
Only that they do no such thing, what you do here is called a conspiracy theory.
Btw I am 100% free (and 100% legit) and I swimm in ad. And no I do not spend all day playing either, I have life. Tho I play over a year now.
Only that it didn't matter how many ad did you put into zax, the waiting time was same for everyone. And we even have limit how much you have listed. Yes the 2 weeks waiting time was a pain, but it had nothing to do with legit rich players. You don't make much sense.
First off, im not looking for a fight, and if that what you thought this was, then dont you think it would have been better if you didnt reply at all? you just contradict yourself, and that not the only thing that wrong with you post.
Now back on topic.
"but in this game they have kept quite a few guild members from doing what was mentioned above, buying respecs and Zen only items like that"
This was the problem, you fail to comprehende where the problem lies, so i will explain it to you.
The Astral resonator glitch clogged up the backlog, flippers didnt cause the backlog, they didnt prevent others from buying Zen, Or Zen items.
This is very simple to understand and i dont know how people are still missing it.
During the backlog, you could still get Zen, and buy Zen only items for the amount they cost, All you had to do was wait, and that waiting isnt the result of flippers.
You didnt need to buy a Coal ward for 800k, and if you needed a respec token you could get, just put in your Zen order and when it goes through you get what you want.
If you cant wait for the amount it takes for your orders to come in, you take the fast way and buy what you want from the AH, it all about convieniency, same as buying Zen, exchanging it for AD, and buying gear of the AH, you could farm the gear if you want, but if you dont have the time for that and you can afford to buy the gear, then why not?
So please dont go around saying they did, as if Flipper forced players to buy their items, because they didnt, those that want convienience bought from them, So blame the astral resonator exploiters because they caused the backlog that caused this.
"My point is this, have your wealth, have your riches, but don't use it in a way that intentionally hampers others gameplay."
Again they didnt intentionally hampers anyone gameplay, the exploiters did.
And even after the exploit players could still get Zen, and Zen store items, and they didnt mess the game up for anyone.
Both poor and rich players alike could still get items either with the normal price, or at an exhorbant price.
If a rich player want to buy something that cost 500k, for 800k then let them do it.
If a Poor player want to buy that 500k item, and they have the fund, then they can get the item for 500k, all it does is take a few days, it not like they are forced to get the item for 800k.
So therefore since you failed to present any good evidence as to how flippers ruined the game for others, im going to go on ahead and flagged your post as being a conspiracy theory, and with no factual evidence it is invalid.
A lot of people. Especially before the exploit was well known. People made up their own speculation and some came down to flippers. Part of me wished that person didnt say anything and they listed to the people and bound the zen store while the ones who said so can see it still climbing.
It's ok though, back to our d&d game. Dailies and dailies.
Yes, I realize that they're technically doing a "service" by waiting through the ZAX, but I still don't like it.
EDIT: lol, double ninja'd
But even if flipping exists, you still can get stuff at "normal" price, therefore, you are wrong. Also flippers did nothing to increase backlog/keep it existing/make it disappear slower.
Actually, "flipping" helped the economy since you had more AD flushed away, plus it kept AD rich (and/or impatient) people from using zax, so the rest could get their zen faster.
To my mind, it comes down to, did they get more than 500 ad per 1 zen. If the answer to that is yes, it was a ban worthy exploit to my mind. It's that simple to me. Like I said this is obviously not PWE's stance and they are the only one that matters in the end.
They're making an exchange of their zen for ad just like the actually exchange. It pretty much cancels out and there wasn't a significant amount of them anyway. That person is is requesting more zen than more ad, that doesn't change the fact that someone is offering that AD though.
Make a game. See how long it lasts with your views.
Going to close this thread down as it's unsalvageable. Feel free to discuss the ZAX on another thread--but leave out the accusations and the speculation over what should and should not be banned. Thank you.
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