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6 artifact weapons - all wrong

rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
edited September 2014 in PvE Discussion
This is what happens when RNG is the gateway to loot and not skill/effort.

I've got my dragon gems. Still doing dailies but not going to open any artifact packs until this weekend for the slight chance that the devs get it right
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  • lazaroth666lazaroth666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    In my first try I got the wrong one, I was a bit upset because I always have bad luck but anyway, it's the best weapon so I have to keep trying, right? I had luck in the 2nd try and got the one I was looking for. It's a bit curious but this happened to a few of my friends, the first one was the worst weapon but in the 2nd try they got the one they wanted.

    The Dragon Gem is at 500k - 600k +/- atm in the AH, did you buy 6 of them for 6m a few days ago? It would have been better to buy 1 by 1 each time you were going to start it. If you don't have the weapon for the RP x2 event, you are going to lose even a lot more, just keep trying man.
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  • rollingonitrollingonit Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    66.6666666666666666666666666666666666666 chance to get the wrong one.
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  • truelokastertruelokaster Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I guess I was lucky as I got my Ferocity in the very first and only attempt.

    I'd take whatever I'd got since for the GWF the attribute for the other 2 are not bad at all.

    Zengiah, I think you can level the other ones and then use them to feed when you get the one you want, just like regular artifacts, right?
  • cryptfoundationcryptfoundation Member Posts: 342 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    All jokes aside.... Were you one of the people that at the beginning of this mod said: I think we may actually have balance and people may come back to the game! Heck these heroic encounters may have better drop rates of artifacts then IWD.
  • rollingonitrollingonit Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I guess I was lucky as I got my Ferocity in the very first and only attempt.

    I'd take whatever I'd got since for the GWF the attribute for the other 2 are not bad at all.

    Zengiah, I think you can level the other ones and then use them to feed when you get the one you want, just like regular artifacts, right?

    Players are indicating you lose RP doing this now. IDK if they are attempting to put a different weapon into their weapon or the same exact one. But information reported, saying you lose RP doing it.
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  • magiquepursemagiquepurse Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Hope you have better luck next one Zeng.
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I need either hand of blight or dark spirals on my artifact weapons. So far, despite it's 2 out 3, it gave me eldritch blast twice.

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  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    hfgtfsdfs wrote: »
    Wrong. You actually lose RP doing it like that. Its not like the normal artifacts where it gives you x2 RP. So they are totally useless, they give 3000 RP each. Thats 6m for 18k RP. LOL.

    Yup. They didn't AT LEAST have these artifacts give a good amount of RP
  • zshikarazshikara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    hfgtfsdfs wrote: »
    Do you calculate the odds by doing:

    2/6*2/6*2/6*2/6*2/6*2/6 = 0.001291467969 ?

    How do I turn that into %?

    where do you get 2/6 from? there are 3 artifact weapons for each class, so its 1/3. Yes I know 2/6 is the same thing, but why complicate things.

    Also, to turn something into a percent you move the decimal point two places to the right. 0.0012... would become 0.12%
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  • burkaancburkaanc Member Posts: 2,186 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    hfgtfsdfs wrote: »
    Wrong. You actually lose RP doing it like that. Its not like the normal artifacts where it gives you x2 RP. So they are totally useless, they give 3000 RP each. Thats 6m for 18k RP. LOL.

    but wont it work better with double rp weekend ?
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  • fdsakhfduewhfiuffdsakhfduewhfiuf Member Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    hfgtfsdfs wrote: »
    Can someone help me calculate the odds of getting the wrong weapon 6 times in 6 days? Starting to feel like something is wrong here.

    With three weapons and equal chances for each of them the odds for six failures in a row are (1-1/3)^6 = 8.77...%
  • velynnavelynna Member Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I know I lose a little bit of my soul every time I get the wrong weapon.

    You must have no soul left.
  • ximaeximae Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    Thats 6m for 18k RP. LOL.

    well thats if u paid for the gems..... my first 2 cost me 25k each, my third is costing me something like 70k as i had to buy the bone and steel.


    already sold 2 gems for 1.3m and thinkim gona sell the 4th one i had saved up for more cash as i think i might be keeping the second bow.
  • jaotutjaotut Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 576 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I'm in the same boat, can't get the right one. I guess we'll just have to learn to use Chilling Cloud in PvP :/
    Frustrating thing is not being able to do the dungeon when everyone else has it unlocked
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  • abecassisabecassis Member Posts: 255 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    jaotut wrote: »
    I'm in the same boat, can't get the right one. I guess we'll just have to learn to use Chilling Cloud in PvP :/
    Frustrating thing is not being able to do the dungeon when everyone else has it unlocked

    Frustrating thing is that the only reason we are not able to do the dungeon or refine the weapon is because of RNG ! It has nothing to do with skill/gear/progressions just RNG...
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  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ximae wrote: »
    well thats if u paid for the gems..... my first 2 cost me 25k each, my third is costing me something like 70k as i had to buy the bone and steel.


    already sold 2 gems for 1.3m and thinkim gona sell the 4th one i had saved up for more cash as i think i might be keeping the second bow.

    One more example for RNG. I did 100+ skrmishes, some odd dungeons and have found 1 dragon gem.
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  • ximaeximae Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    asterotg wrote: »
    One more example for RNG. I did 100+ skrmishes, some odd dungeons and have found 1 dragon gem.

    Dont do epic do normal there is more odds at the gem there. i got 3 in normal skirmish which is a breeze in less than an hour

    rest have been from epic LOL

    im also pretty much over 100+ runs between LOL and skirmish though
  • froszztfroszzt Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 284 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    Got the bow I wanted in my first box ^_^
  • mehguy138mehguy138 Member Posts: 1,803 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    froszzt wrote: »
    Got the bow I wanted in my first box ^_^

    Same here. But I'm starting to worry about my GWF...
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  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Well part of the issue is the entire way they designed the RP system is HORRIBLE.

    Then the entire way they designed how you GET these weapons is also HORRIBLE!

    Whats worse is they have announced they are doing MORE content like these artifact equipment, which is just a BAD BAD idea.


    if anything instead of leveling an item up LIKE artifacts, they should have made the item MORE like black ice, where you "empower" your gear with greens/blues/epics.

    So instead of farming TONS of RP, and spending millions, basically each time you want to play you charge it with a few blues/greens and maybe a purple for a couple hours of play. THAT Would have been a much better system. Maybe something like 10k RP for max "charge" for Tier 3 effects.

    Tier 1: Blue version (0 - "RP")
    Tier 2: Purple version (5000 - "RP") lasts maybe 3 hours of combat.
    Tier 3: orange version (10,000 - "RP) lasts 3 hours at orange then turns to Purple.

    This would be 17 blues lvl 60 items for 3 hours of play at Purple. Or 34 Blue items (17 belts) for a full charge at Orange.

    "Enchant" slots would be "X'd" out and only affect the weapon at orange.

    That system is MUCH better than this crappy RP system if they want a "sink"
  • crazymikeecrazymikee Member Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    can you use one artifact weapon and put it into another one?
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  • str8slayerstr8slayer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 715 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    Yeah, if you guys think artifact weapons and belts are bad wait until they release artifact armor sets, rings and necks...
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  • thewolfisloosethewolfisloose Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    My sense of triumph reaching this legendary weapon box is diluted by the uncertainty. I can't play as much as I like, and i rack up at most 200k AD at a time with my newer character. I don't know their reasoning to RNG this box (AD sink, make us play more, evil etc.) but it's not exciting. I would rather a longer grind laced with skill-based gates instead of this system where all these cool mats are consumed to have a chance of letting us down. I don't even have 3rd Sherpanderp boon yet but I can unlock legendary-dragon-weapon-of-awesomeness?
  • midnightfang93midnightfang93 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    crazymikee wrote: »
    can you use one artifact weapon and put it into another one?

    Yes, but it honestly is not worth it. Did a quick test on preview since I got 2 of the same artifact weapon (that are worthless to me...) and got this:
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    You get bonus RP up until level 3. After that, you lose RP.
  • burkaancburkaanc Member Posts: 2,186 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    thanks

    with double rp it seems to be worth it anyway
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  • midnightfang93midnightfang93 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    burkaanc wrote: »
    thanks

    with double rp it seems to be worth it anyway

    If you won't be able to get the artifact you want before it ends, maybe (in order to save inventory space and so on). However, it still doesn't look like it will be worth it in the long run.
  • mehguy138mehguy138 Member Posts: 1,803 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    str8slayer wrote: »
    Yeah, if you guys think artifact weapons and belts are bad wait until they release artifact armor sets, rings and necks...

    Which will be refined up to legendary in the first day.
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  • nuudlznuudlz Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    7th try and he still didn't get it.

    I'm starting to worry about him - he sounds /very/ depressed on TS. :|

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  • crazymikeecrazymikee Member Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    well after the 8th try thats usually the time to give up lol
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