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Item unbound Token - i would buy one for zen !

fauust01fauust01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited August 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
would you ?
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  • sonofraistlinsonofraistlin Member Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    in a heart-beat!
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  • shuffletjeshuffletje Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Good idea.
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  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    This is only going to be used for ridiculously powerful items that are extremely rare or cost more AD to buy then the ZEN cost.

    As such I very much doubt Cryptic will go for it.
  • zshikarazshikara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Charge 200 to 300 zen for this kind of an item and I think they'd sell like hotcakes. Let it unbind any one character bound item and we're golden.
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  • aiulianaiulian Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I don t think we will see this token because everyone will buy one go and do DD and from the last chest he gets a piece of gear then he unbinds it and bang 800k AD (most likely when a class is released and everyone wants to play it and get their gear and stuff). And I don t think you will see a price of 200-300 ZEN more likely to be a 500-700 or maybe even 1000.

    Though it would be a nice idea.
  • epclipseingmoonepclipseingmoon Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The idea is to make them but instead of unbinding the item compleatly it should make item bound on account then gets rebound to what ever char you gear it on.

    I would buy tones of tokens like that
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  • adinosiiadinosii Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,294 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    A more realistic thing than a complete unbinding token would be a token that would allow you to change character-bound item to an account-bound one. That would not allow people to profit from the AH.

    However, even this is unlikely to happen - it would allow people to transfer companions from an alt they have stopped playing to a new alt, instead of buying new companions with Zen.
    Hoping for improvements...
  • ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I would like to unbind epic companions I don't use anymore and sell them to other players.
  • aiulianaiulian Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    adinosii wrote: »
    A more realistic thing than a complete unbinding token would be a token that would allow you to change character-bound item to an account-bound one. That would not allow people to profit from the AH.

    However, even this is unlikely to happen - it would allow people to transfer companions from an alt they have stopped playing to a new alt, instead of buying new companions with Zen.

    Yes. But they can limit that to certain stuff let s say gear and fashion or I don t know... something that u wouldn't find in the ZEN market. So that way people will still buy stuff for ZEN but still enjoy the what they have collected over time. and I think BoA is a nicer idea than unbound.
  • fauust01fauust01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    accualy i would pay like 1k-2k for such token or even more
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  • zshikarazshikara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I think the lower price point that I suggested would be a better idea. People would perceive this as a chance to make money. They buy several of these tokens that would cost roughly 200K ad if you transferred the ad into zen to unbind something they could percievably sell for much more than that. Because of that players see this as a chance to make a profit in game at absolutely no loss in income to PWE. Therefore more people would buy them and thus make PWE more money than they would if they priced it higher where players would no longer be able to make a profit off most things they could unbind (or not as big of a profit).
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  • greensaigreensai Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 39
    edited August 2014
    I would be happy to buy a token to turn some of my pets into acount bound.
  • dantesinferno76dantesinferno76 Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    At the lower price point that zshikara suggested I would end up buying more tokens than if they were higher prices. In the end, PWE would have more of my zen than if they priced it higher and I would be much happier.
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    God no. More stuff should be bound to character. If you want it, farm it on that toon.
  • l0th4ri0l0th4ri0 Member Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Yeah this seems great on paper, but pretty much goes against anything that could be called "company interest". Having stuff permanently bound is a vital part of what drives sales. Anything that interferes with selling enchanted keys is a HUGE no-no.
  • jrfbrunetjrfbrunet Member Posts: 388 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    If the "unbind token" were limited in its use, and really cheap (like 25 zen) I could see it a worthwhile development.

    By limited, I mean:
    Stuff that came from a lockbox that you really want for a different character could be unbound from that character (Still bound to Account) and then bound again to the character that actually needs it. I don't think this would hurt Zen sales, because for all the players who might buy less enchanted keys, many many more players would buy Unbind Token to more than offset that loss.

    Dungeon loot drops are excluded. Period.

    As long as the limits are tweaked to prevent people from using them to profit on the AH or otherwise exploit... then I say go for it Cryptic.
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  • celticgamer0celticgamer0 Member Posts: 537 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    epclipseingmoon wrote: »
    The idea is to make them but instead of unbinding the item compleatly it should make item bound on account then gets rebound to what ever char you gear it on.

    I would buy tones of tokens like that

    This... this is how it should be. BoP should be BoA. Not like you can profit from selling it to yourself, but will make grinding a lot less tedious.
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    celticgamer0 wrote: »
    This... this is how it should be. BoP should be BoA. Not like you can profit from selling it to yourself, but will make grinding a lot less tedious.

    Honestly I think offering BOTH would work really well.

    A BOP -> BOA token for reasonable cheap (maybe the cost of a re-roll?)

    Then a MUCH more expensive BOP -> BOE or better yet! BOA -> BOE (technically youd need BOTH tokens then).

    The reason I say this is it would open up ALOT of economy opportunities for people. You would have people able to sell formorian weapons for instance, or legendary artifacts. While some see this as a negative, it would really boost the economy quite a bit.

    Also this would drastically increase the value of zen, making more players more willing to buy zen direct.


    I would imagine that ROUGHLY:
    BOP -> BOA: 300 zen
    BOA -> BOE: 2000 zen

    Something like this could work.... Just a suggestion
  • jrfbrunetjrfbrunet Member Posts: 388 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    ayroux wrote: »
    ...snip

    The reason I say this is it would open up ALOT of economy opportunities for people. You would have people able to sell formorian weapons for instance, or legendary artifacts. While some see this as a negative, it would really boost the economy quite a bit.

    Also this would drastically increase the value of zen, making more players more willing to buy zen direct.


    I would imagine that ROUGHLY:
    BOP -> BOA: 300 zen
    BOA -> BOE: 2000 zen

    Something like this could work.... Just a suggestion

    For the price of 2000Zen/1,000,000AD you could sell something for 2,000,000AD. Would that help the ZAX backlog or hurt it? Help Zen sales or hurt them?
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  • l0th4ri0l0th4ri0 Member Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    jrfbrunet wrote: »
    For the price of 2000Zen/1,000,000AD you could sell something for 2,000,000AD. Would that help the ZAX backlog or hurt it? Help Zen sales or hurt them?

    LOL this is why the Road to Hell is paved a certain way.

    I know you guys are excited by the idea of a hypothetical awesome-sounding mechanics change and are sorta hashing out theoretical possibilities, but binding is there for a reason. It doesn't "work" properly unless it's truly permanent.

    "I know! Let's open up a bunch more loopholes in the rules! What can go wrong? Everyone will use the loopholes properly, and won't abuse them! Right?" :)
  • zekethesinnerzekethesinner Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 805 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Just make token BoP->BoA, end of story, u dont need arti on abandoned toon? trasfer it to another toon, but never be able to sell, beside couple coppers.


  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    zekethesinner wrote: »
    Just make token BoP->BoA, end of story, u dont need arti on abandoned toon? trasfer it to another toon, but never be able to sell, beside couple coppers.

    Problem is that that means that ad etc doesn't move out of the system and more inflation occurs. Less BoA more BoP. I'd like to see weapon and armor enchants bind on equip.
  • l0th4ri0l0th4ri0 Member Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    Problem is that that means that ad etc doesn't move out of the system and more inflation occurs. Less BoA more BoP. I'd like to see weapon and armor enchants bind on equip.

    OOO nice. This is actually a phenomenally good idea. You have the cleverness, sir. :)
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