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pandora1x
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What will you people use?
Courage Breaker? Bloodpath? Lurker's Assault?
I bet people will cry about CB bypassing immunity (even if it's WAI) and BloodPath's immunity.
I also bet that once these dailies are touched as well the crying will not end, and people will want to Transform Hateful Knives' prone into a stun. lol
Courage Breaker? Bloodpath? Lurker's Assault?
I bet people will cry about CB bypassing immunity (even if it's WAI) and BloodPath's immunity.
I also bet that once these dailies are touched as well the crying will not end, and people will want to Transform Hateful Knives' prone into a stun. lol
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HK is just too good. Super range, prone and stealth regen MMMMMMM
But man I will miss my big crit insta kills that are possible when I am outnumbered to try and even the field for my self.
If they do "balance" WoB to respect DR and deflect it better not be until they make Vengeance Pursuit something amazing.
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Check out my VP suggestion here -> http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?739971-When-will-Vengeance-s-Pursuit-ever-become-viable
TR dailies are a case of one or two obviously overpowered ones simply overshadowing all the rest. If WoB is nerfed, there are still plenty others useful.
I'm just worried that they'd nerf WoB in the wrong way, as they did so with SE. There are plenty of other ways to do it right, instead of just futz the power by straight-gutting its damage from the top. They shouldn't have done that to Shox, and they should not do it to WoB.
If I were the developers, I'd nerf WoB by either making the damage go inverse to number of targets in the area (powerful as it is now against 1 person, but damage divided amongst multiple targets), or do just the opposite (so it hits weak when fewer targets, harder against many). Or, alternately, there's always making it into a channelled power so it delivers the full damage over certain period of time, not just all of it in one big blast.
But knowing what they've done to Shox, they'll probably just gut the damage from the top anyway. The laziest way possible.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
If and when the rebalancing starts, I'm not going down without a fight against the devs if they "inevitably" fix WoB, rework Stealth, and not give us the DPS this class is entitled to.
Well, extra Arp and tenacity aren't a part of PVE so I don't think it'll be affected much if they don't nerf the damage. Then again, pretty much all TR nerfs have destroyed PVE in the process so who freakin knows anymore.
1) is not immune to all skills/encounters (certain gf prones can knock you out of the sky)
2) is bugged (sometimes you will only do 1 or 2 hits and the skill stops working)
Whirlwind of Blades:
1) is bugged and bypassing AC right now
(to all of you that cried about roar being used when it was bugged, I suggest you stop using wob now or you are just like the GWF abusers)
Lurkers Assault:
This is a must on my list of daily powers +1!!!
Courage Breaker:
Amazing skill that works wonders on overpowered people (debuffs are perfect for allowing your group to gang attack one player)
Shocking execution:
This is a laughable daily power. The damage is lower than our at wills, really guys really?
It's so annoying reading this posts over and over again. How come i don't read in other class sections so ridiculous posts about nerfs even when they are so op? That's unbelievable! All TR dailies goes through armor resistance that is the simple, very simple reason why TR do not have armor penetration in stats! Learn it and do not make so annoying and negative threads. If you were taking lessons from other classes you would create here thread of how it is ridiculous that TR has no real single daily power. That how it is possible that CW control, aoe and the most op class in pve has daily single target damage 16-18,5 k dmg while they have 6 k power. While at same time TR with same power and shocking execution has 3,5-4 k dmg. Why don't you make thread about this? This is important not making another useless thread how to destroy class even more. TR dailies are made this way to bypass defence and dodges remember that and don't make such a threads again.
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Didn't read, you have the reading comprehension of a potato.
Check my signature. I main a Rogue and ONLY a rogue since beta. No matter what happens to the class I will always play a Trickster Rogue
It's just a FACT that people love to cry about TR's until we are equipped with toothpicks instead of daggers.
It'll get a fix but also a nerf. Look at shocking execution for example.
They'll reduce its base damage by a considerable amout on top of making it resistable.
Hmm... maybe we could be Dentists. We could shout "make you're gums bleed!"
Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Yeah, we could be.
I'm sure GWF's, after screaming ROAR over and over again, have teeth problems now.
courage breaker:
its very hard next to impossible land on good perma ,hr,dc it doesnt even works on cw they still proc stuff and can kill u easy not to mention they dodge more then we can jump.
lurker is a staling tool not a daily permas dont need it.
bloodbath is so bad vs more people and very bad dmg can be dodged,blocked, its only good for imune
so courage breaker against gwf, gf,
and some imune dailys for others
not so good is it
What you actually need is a way to deal with trash. Smoke Bomb doesn't last that long, takes a bit to kick in, and does 0 damage. Blitz is fairly derp and not usually worth the bar space, Dazing Strike is good but a pain to actually land on three mobs due to the tiny AoE size and even then it's only three mobs, Path of the Blade only hits one thing at a time, WR requires the enemies to bunch to be most effective. WoB is great for when you've picked up enough trash to be annoying, or you've got a group of several bigger things for softening them. In a party it's less a concern overall, throw down smoke if your CW sucks/isn't there and you're good, but solo it can be annoying. As it happens, solo I gain enough AP to actually hit my daily fairly frequently(Winter's Bounty has a surprisingly decent proc rate), so I actually get to use WoB at a rate compatible with about when I need to use it to best effect. Takes trash right out, softens up stronger groups, it's beautiful.
I just plain don't find myself ever needing or even wanting Bloodbath. *shrug* WoB on the other hand I find indispensable.
They just need to fix that whole 'going through defenses thing' for the PvP side. I don't care about defense penetration for PvE, I've got my 24% resistance ignored.
But sadly, yeah, they're probably going to do it wrong and destroy it like they've done with SE twice now.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
It hits one at a time... not everything at the same time.
I just checked it this morning, and it was "knifing" on everything around me, not one at a time. I use it all the time on mobs.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
impossible, potb only hits one at a time, i didn't use it in a while so it might be bugged tho
But once stealth gets "reworked" then RIP TR.
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Lmao that's already what I do when facing overly tanky people because TR damage is pathetic ;D
I am sure PotB will hit many targets if you make sure to single attack several of them in a row. If you focus all of your attacks on one NPC, then it will only attack one.
I have gotten in the habit of smacking a couple of the weaker NPCs in a mob one time each, then start wailing on the stronger ones. As I attack the stronger NPCs, the blades are still slicing the others that I only hit once each moments before.
Trust me, I used PotB all the time and it has always worked this way for me for at least the past 9 months.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
we are saying that it hits one at a time and not only one of many mobs
Doubtful. Once TR gets reworked (DPS damage returned to the glory days before Mod 2, hopefully), it won't automatically be RIP for the TR. Don't forget the TR's base damage deflect rate of 75% either!
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
I am confused then. You should see how quickly the mobs around me fall when I start PotB, especially if it crits!
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
which top tr did u kill 1v1
i know that build.......u just leave
when real tr comes on cap
so before calling out any tr u should proly beat one 1v1 with
full hp ,not coming to only daily him
That is a good one - it is my secondary daily. I use it sometimes, depending upon my specific combat situation.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."