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O.K. You Want A Surefire A.D. Sink:

jorifice1jorifice1 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
edited August 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
Sell the Weapon and Armor Enchant Visual Effects as Dyes on the Wondrous Bizarre.
I would actually be willing to pay some serious A.D. to get, say, the Perfect Terror Enchant look on my Offhand to match the one on my Mainhand for my T.R., along with the Soulforged Visual for my Armor. And, say Bloodtheft and Lifedrinker would look incredible together WITHOUT having to sacrifice your Plaguefire and Soulforged.

Listen, people (including me) are already running around out there in Armor Enchants that they don't actually WANT, just for the Visuals. There IS a market for this.
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  • chaoscourtesanchaoscourtesan Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Uh.. I'd pay just to have the goofy looking effects REMOVED... So I guess I second this.. sort of.
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    Roland Mac Sheonin GF | Tarron Direheart SW |
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    You'd get some, but it's not surefire. There are many people like me that won't pay one AD for a cosmetic.
  • ixalmarisixalmaris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Thats no AD sink, thats an AD speedbump. As people are constantly generating AD a true sink needs to constantly drain it.
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited August 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    You'd get some, but it's not surefire. There are many people like me that won't pay one AD for a cosmetic.

    Yep and I hear the same people who say they won't pay for anything cosmetic.

    That's nice but you know what...
    A game that only caters to people like you has another name: pay to win.

    The number of people willing to pay for cosmetics is proven to be enough not only to be an adequate sink for in game revenue but enough to fund games like League of Legends at record breaking profits which offers no items for sale which grant in game power. Seriously, please lean back and enjoy the fact games can be entirely successful just selling cosmetics you don't have any interest in and don't encourage the company to continue marketing mainly in non cosmetic options.


    Fact is...
    What League of Legends proved is when there are fewer options that are non-cosmetic the more likely people are to pay for cosmetics. I even had an argument last week with a friend of mine who said he would never buy cosmetics but as soon as I brought up League of Legends he mentioned how many cosmetics he bought in that game.
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    ambisinisterr wrote: »
    Yep and I hear the same people who say they won't pay for anything cosmetic.

    That's nice but you know what...
    A game that only caters to people like you has another name: pay to win.

    The number of people willing to pay for cosmetics is proven to be enough not only to be an adequate sink for in game revenue but enough to fund games like League of Legends at record breaking profits which offers no items for sale which grant in game power. Seriously, please lean back and enjoy the fact games can be entirely successful just selling cosmetics you don't have any interest in and don't encourage the company to continue marketing mainly in non cosmetic options.


    Fact is...
    What League of Legends proved is when there are fewer options that are non-cosmetic the more likely people are to pay for cosmetics. I even had an argument last week with a friend of mine who said he would never buy cosmetics but as soon as I brought up League of Legends he mentioned how many cosmetics he bought in that game.

    Yes and no. Lets say that you can't buy power at all. I still wouldn't pay for cosmetics, I'd just worry less about making money. They can make my character a 4bit version of Mario cross dressing in Princess Peach's tutu and as long as the game play is fun that is all I care about. I'd probably at that point spend more time in the foundry which has no rewards to speak of, and helping newer players farm rather than try to make sure what I'm doing is profitable. I don't have an issue with selling cosmetics and it's a good step but it doesn't do everything.
  • chaoscourtesanchaoscourtesan Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I dumped a couple thousand on Champions Online (and still subscribe today. This would absolutely not have happened without the costume shop.) This game loses out bigtime for lack of a costume shop. Let me 'pick my pauldrons.' Let me decide to 'breechclout or not to breechclout.' Let me color the way I want. Make a fortune.

    There are tons of pure action games out there.. if that's all I wanted, I wouldn't be playing anything this involved.

    Edit- clarified
    Rhyon Cawdorian GWF | Opa Loka TR | Cormac Argentus III DC | Annika Thornblade GF | Aerys Skydark HR | Bartin Findlor TR | Aellia Baalthrall CW | Lucan Hawkmoon CW | Opa Brahk GWF | Korzbyrk DC | Den Kruk GWF | Jherek Skarsin CW |
    Roland Mac Sheonin GF | Tarron Direheart SW |
  • brun2000brun2000 Member Posts: 244 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    Yes and no. Lets say that you can't buy power at all. I still wouldn't pay for cosmetics, I'd just worry less about making money. They can make my character a 4bit version of Mario cross dressing in Princess Peach's tutu and as long as the game play is fun that is all I care about. I'd probably at that point spend more time in the foundry which has no rewards to speak of, and helping newer players farm rather than try to make sure what I'm doing is profitable. I don't have an issue with selling cosmetics and it's a good step but it doesn't do everything.
    Good for you, but other people (like me) would pay for cosmetics. (And I know there are many more out there)
  • gerbilhurdlergerbilhurdler Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 418 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    jorifice1 wrote: »
    Sell the Weapon and Armor Enchant Visual Effects as Dyes on the Wondrous Bizarre.
    I would actually be willing to pay some serious A.D. to get, say, the Perfect Terror Enchant look on my Offhand to match the one on my Mainhand for my T.R., along with the Soulforged Visual for my Armor. And, say Bloodtheft and Lifedrinker would look incredible together WITHOUT having to sacrifice your Plaguefire and Soulforged.

    Listen, people (including me) are already running around out there in Armor Enchants that they don't actually WANT, just for the Visuals. There IS a market for this.
    Good idea.
    Maybe they could add a cosmetic slot and sell 'Perfect Cosmetic Enchants" for like 100k each so you can change em back and forth.
  • fastrean3fastrean3 Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    This game is lacking of cosmetic outfit items.
  • anharmonanharmon Member Posts: 175
    edited August 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    Yes and no. Lets say that you can't buy power at all. I still wouldn't pay for cosmetics, I'd just worry less about making money. They can make my character a 4bit version of Mario cross dressing in Princess Peach's tutu and as long as the game play is fun that is all I care about. I'd probably at that point spend more time in the foundry which has no rewards to speak of, and helping newer players farm rather than try to make sure what I'm doing is profitable. I don't have an issue with selling cosmetics and it's a good step but it doesn't do everything.

    That's you. What ambisinisterr was getting at is that LoL proves there is a significant portion of the gaming population willing to dump money/resources into cosmetics. Of course, that's not 100% of people. Not everybody in LoL pays for cosmetics. But it's certainly a significant portion of LoL players -- enough to earn a lot of profit.
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    brun2000 wrote: »
    Good for you, but other people (like me) would pay for cosmetics. (And I know there are many more out there)
    anharmon wrote: »
    That's you. What ambisinisterr was getting at is that LoL proves there is a significant portion of the gaming population willing to dump money/resources into cosmetics. Of course, that's not 100% of people. Not everybody in LoL pays for cosmetics. But it's certainly a significant portion of LoL players -- enough to earn a lot of profit.
    I think my point was missed. I know there are a good % of people that will pay for it. What I'm getting at is that there are also a good % of people like me that won't. The situation right now is that there is so much AD in the system that you need to do multiple sinks to hit up every niche with something. Just one like this isn't surefire, it's just a good start.
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited August 2014
    You have plenty of things to spend your Zen on...

    I don't see a reason to chime in a thread saying 'I want to buy cosmetics' just to say 'I don't.'
    I would bet my life you are in the minority and really unless you have a reason to not want cosmetics added for purchase it's just going to get a rise out of people who do want to.
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    ambisinisterr wrote: »
    You have plenty of things to spend your Zen on...

    I don't see a reason to chime in a thread saying 'I want to buy cosmetics' just to say 'I don't.'
    I would bet my life you are in the minority and really unless you have a reason to not want cosmetics added for purchase it's just going to get a rise out of people who do.
    Zen yes. AD well there are sinks such as the upgrade costs. However they're high enough to make it where people don't tend to use them. There needs to be a lot more little sinks to get ad out of the economy so that it's value goes up compared to zen. This idea of the op's is good but it needs to just be a part of a bigger whole.
  • myles08807myles08807 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 409 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Let me build a home, an account-wide base with one bank slot per toon on the account and barely a roof over our heads. Make me trickle AD into maintaining it; and POUR AD into enlarging it, eventually adding more slots, an altar, and other improvements. Maybe that home, in whatever context I choose (urban townhouse, rural manor, dungeon, tower, etc.) eventually comes with a title, and land...land that generates professional resources but costs AD to manage, and a home whose legendary social functions and visits from the Protector require all kinds of AD to fund. Yes, the hardcorps (see what I did there?) minority will disdain all this as havin' nothin' ta do with killin', but the rest of us gamers will go all squee at the chance to build something for ourselves.
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