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zshikara
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So, plaguefire enchant reads as follows:
"+X% Fire damage. Burn for X% damage per second for 3s and reduce def by X%, can be stacked 3 times. "
My question is: does the reduced defense also stack 3 times? or is it just the dot that stacks 3 times? The wording makes me think the defense reduction also stacks 3 times. Also, does it stack with other people using the same enchant?
Thanks.
"+X% Fire damage. Burn for X% damage per second for 3s and reduce def by X%, can be stacked 3 times. "
My question is: does the reduced defense also stack 3 times? or is it just the dot that stacks 3 times? The wording makes me think the defense reduction also stacks 3 times. Also, does it stack with other people using the same enchant?
Thanks.
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The wording definitely makes it sound like defense reduction does stack but 45% defense reduction is...a lot. Wording wise it should but the back of my head is tingling thinking 45% defense reduction is a bit too good to be true.
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The debuff stacks 3 times, but it has to be refreshed periodically since each stack lasts for only 3s. Just pay attention that 45% defense reduction (3 stacks of GPF) in PvE means 9% of increased DPS (for the whole party, btw).
It stacks with any other debuff (Terror, High Prophet, High Vizier, etc), but if there are two or more players using a Plague Fire, the maximum number of stacks is 3 (although they can be refreshed by either players). If the enhancements are of a different level, e.g. normal and greater, only the greater is applied.
you are actually wrong on the max stacks, its been bugged since release so it can overstack with encounters similar to old high viziers, also lesser and normal plaguefires stack with the greater.
What do you mean by overstack?
I didn't realise different levels stack also but it is nice for newer players who can still contribute just by getting a lesser plague-fire.
It IS defense reduction and TBH its not too good to be true since new stacks do not refresh old ones. For most situations, you end up with about 2 stacks on with is 30%.
Note: its NOT 30% -DR but defense, which is a scaling stat. In PVE it works as a 3% per stack debuff. So 9% total debuff.
For PVP its actual defense, but with diminishing returns, it actually works out to be in the range (MAX) of between 5-9% debuff.
Biggest drawback to GPF is that stacks dont refresh themselves so to even get max stacks, you have to continually be attacking. For comparison purposes I generally estimate 2 stacks of GPF + weapon damage for my calculations - since thats the majority of attacks - in PVP.
You are answering the wrong question. One plaguefire effect stacks up to three times as the tooltip says.
You are referring to multiple plaguefire enchantments stacking with each other in which case they do not.
A LPF, NPF and GPF can all be applied to one target but a single target can not be effected by multiple GPF.
Same concept applies for terror enchantments.
Actually it makes perfect sense. Defense applies and increase to your DR. It is not your DR.
45% defense reduction does not equate to a 45% DR reduction. It does EXACTLY what it says in the tooltip. Plain as day.
My only concern was 45% defense reduction sounds too good to be true despite the wording implying it is happens, but if it does it does...and the wording is exactly that.
Base damage increase was around 10.3% (excluding GPF dots who are extra stuff) so I guess the 9% stated by devs matches reality. The fact that my average was slightly higher is probably within statistical deviation.
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GPF is easily tested. Grab a friend, note their defense stat, then hammer at them with a GPF and monitor the defense stat while doing so. You'll see it works as advertised in PvP. It is however, a damage buff in PvE.