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Please bring back the 1vs1 and Practice feature...
nuudlz
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Hello, hello -
I'm not sure where to post but I kinda hope I can adress the Dev's here (yeee - naive lil' dude).
So what I wanted to point out is that you fixed the following issue with the last patch:
"The final PvP scoreboard can no longer be closed after a match is finished and get players stuck in the map."
Well - on the first look it seems like an issue but actually it was a very beloved feature for almost every player from the pvp community. Why? You were able to stay in an pvp area after a match. For what? For the following things:
- Doing fancy 1vs1; 2vs2
- Doing Practice
- Trying new things out
So - as you can see... that thing is not really an issue. Don't count it as a bug. It's a feature and it is a very good one. You are not able to do these things in Open World PVP (Companions; Area and so on). Of course you can try queueing up with 10 peeps but - yeee, you may will get the point.
So what I'm asking for is: Bring back the bug. Don't fix that issue. Keep it as a feature. We loved it.
kk. thx. bye.
I'm not sure where to post but I kinda hope I can adress the Dev's here (yeee - naive lil' dude).
So what I wanted to point out is that you fixed the following issue with the last patch:
"The final PvP scoreboard can no longer be closed after a match is finished and get players stuck in the map."
Well - on the first look it seems like an issue but actually it was a very beloved feature for almost every player from the pvp community. Why? You were able to stay in an pvp area after a match. For what? For the following things:
- Doing fancy 1vs1; 2vs2
- Doing Practice
- Trying new things out
So - as you can see... that thing is not really an issue. Don't count it as a bug. It's a feature and it is a very good one. You are not able to do these things in Open World PVP (Companions; Area and so on). Of course you can try queueing up with 10 peeps but - yeee, you may will get the point.
So what I'm asking for is: Bring back the bug. Don't fix that issue. Keep it as a feature. We loved it.
kk. thx. bye.
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Enforce rainbow parties in PvP ---- 10v10 PvP ----
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Hm... I'm not sure but I've the feeling you didn't get the point. So... there is Open World PVP ("new pvp area"), Gaungtlegrym PVP ("the old new pvp area") and classic domination pvp. Aight? Ok... let's move on:
For some obvious reasons Open World and GG is a more about the fun - but normal Domination - 5vs5 - PVP is more about competition. And you've to train and practice for competition. Especially after huge changes like from mod3. Normally you were able to do this testing. And that is not possible anymore.
Why don't you practice in Open World PVP?
- It's very hard to set up 1vs1's; The node is different; There are companionen bonuses and weird PvE rules messing up statistics.
Why you don't practice in GG?
- It's impossible to set up a 1vs1; The node is different;
Oh, and that has nothing to do with familiars - there's a Domination PVP mode and there are alot of people enjoying doing PMvsPM.
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Not having any way to 1v1 presented in the game is okay. It lessens the amount of elitism. And, most people didn't know about it. Having said that, given the situation, it was very beneficial to those that used it. Whether it be for 1v1ing, practicing, or testing how abilities/damage work in a more controlled environment while not negatively impacting a game.
Want to test the new IBS or FS against a player in a controlled environment? Well now you have to ruin a PvP match for at least 8 other players.
This change is similar to when they created invisible walls in protector's enclave roofs because they both show the dev team is very detached from the community that plays their game.
Bring the stay after the game "feature" back.
Again.
Nobody has requested that you block duels and staying after the game to practice and analyze data. Nobody complained.
Why take it away?
So people actually go to open zone PVP. And when they get **** on by people who are BIS with companions they end up buying companion/zen so they can play at a equal standing.
See what Cryptic did there?
Leaderboard pretty much force competent player to run as 5 which means 95% of the player base in game are gonna suffer a 5-man stomped when they try to PVP. So they are forced to PVP in open zone.
See what Cryptic did there?
No more 1 v 1 complain as: I am a CW i hate TR cause I get owned everytime. Therefore no more class balance issue complain. If you wanna 1 v 1 you need to do it in new zone.
See what Cryptic did there?
No..... Wtf are you talking about man?
Anyway, on topic:
I would like to see this returned as well however it will allow for stat padding which all the little puggies are trying to do right now anyway, by hiding around the corner, stealing a kill then running away. This would make it much much worse.
So I think they just need to bite the bullet take the 20 or so minutes it would take to put in an arena and be done with it.
This was one of the VERY FEW things PvPers actually wanted, not tenacity, not this open world smash the pug HAMSTER (don't get me wrong.. TONS of fun, but very very unnecessary). Just this, a new PvP map or two and some minor class balancing issues addressed.
LISTEN TO US CRYPTIC!! It will save you a ton of work...
Interesting line of thought
also lets fix the leaderboards pl0x :rolleyes:
Two befriended players had chosen different sides for the conflict in Icewind Dale (so I reckon). I did not know this ... So when I came along and saw these two players fighting did I join in to assist my fellow team player. Only did he then stop fighting and moved into distance. I was mad, thinking what lousy scum dodges out of a fight?! After thinking about it did I realize they must have tried to do a 1v1 and by choosing different sides. I have no better explanation for it.
In short, doing 1v1 in open PvP is bad for anyone who wants to experience team play in an open world. Better give players a dedicated area where they can challenge each other in a duel and so the rest of us does not get mad for running into a 1v1 without knowing.
I think this would be the best idea a specific practice area.
You advertised that we could do 1v1s in mod3 and open world.
But i cant exactly do that when its an open world. You cant chose your opponents, which you also advertised we would be able to do ( have fun within the guild, against other guild etc ) , but its impossible to get in the same instance as people to want to practise against.
The stay in after the match feature was perfect and no one was complaining about them beeing "stuck" in pvp after the match was over. T
Give this feature back or give us /duel so we can do 1v1s.
Yes. It was not intended and caused a fair amount of greifing. I would like to have custom matches like STO does, but it would still take some time to port that feature over.
Next step would be to exclude premades from the normal PVP queue and we would actually have a decent PVP system.
yes, custom matches would definitely provide some attractive features for pvpers. thanks for the clarification, panderus!
I honestly cannot believe this. It never happened to me on almost 3-4 hours of PvP/day since Beta closed. There are so many griefing instances left unchecked, the biggest offender being:
PREMADES VS PUGS
You "fixed" an extremely minor occurrence at best.
Which we PvPers used to practice and duel.
Please reconsider.
Is it the same arena as in CO? We desperately need it in NW. Another user has mentioned the dev who is responsible for said arena(s) is currently working on STO.... Get that man and hire him for NW, then implementing the arena(s) is going to be a piece of cake and would only take a couple of days.
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This game needs a 1on1 option. 5on5, 10on10 20on20 etc. may be fun for 2-3 days but... i mean we have literally no real pvp to this day, all we can do is gank other people in groups or get ganked by a group.
10 years ago, anything other than a 1on1 fight was considered nonsense and cowardish. In every game that i have played the best pvpers always prefered to hold 1on1 matches and only the ones considered "weak" enjoyed being carried by their groups.
im sorry but most people left after the first 5 seconds of the scoreboard being up. so it was nearly impossible to kill someone after the game. and even though it was not intended it was the best feature of pvp by far. PLEASE if you really care about the game return this feature to us. it was amazing and every hardcore pvp'er loved it
the "feature" was an unintended exploit as was stated by panderus. they won't simply "unfix" this, although this would be the second time he's mentioned adding a custom match option.
if you'd like to discuss the creation of a new feature, please create a new thread to do so. asking the devs to re-introduce an unintended exploit is unproductive.