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imaginaerum1
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I'm convinced that Neverwinter is built on top of some kind of space-warping tesseract.
It's the only explanation I can come up with for why a city that, in it's official map (the very one that was used for the city map part of the overland travel map), is about 5000 feet wide at its widest point, contains such huge, sprawling areas.
Neverdeath Graveyard, as can be seen on the map, is a small area mainly composed of two adjoining sections, which occupy in total an area that is about 600' on a side. Yet in NWO, it's enormous.
The area near the Hall of Justice on the map is a mostly flat area with winding streets, yet in NWO it's a steeply sloping area with lots of stairs.
I had a quest idea I was working on using Black Lake. On the official map, Black Lake, the lake itself, is about 200'x500'. The only wall nearby is the city wall, to the north of the lake. Yet in NWO, it's a large lake, so large that it had shipping before it got choked with slime and debris, and there are large walls around it.
I know they needed to make changes to make it work in a video game environment, but, not being familiar with the background for the city of Neverwinter, I hadn't realized just how much they had changed.
I don't really have a solution for this. I'm just going to move on, and build whatever fits my quest, since that's obviously what Cryptic did. It's just really frustrating to try to make something that fits the Lore and uses established locations, only to find out that the locations are nothing like what they are "supposed to be".
It's the only explanation I can come up with for why a city that, in it's official map (the very one that was used for the city map part of the overland travel map), is about 5000 feet wide at its widest point, contains such huge, sprawling areas.
Neverdeath Graveyard, as can be seen on the map, is a small area mainly composed of two adjoining sections, which occupy in total an area that is about 600' on a side. Yet in NWO, it's enormous.
The area near the Hall of Justice on the map is a mostly flat area with winding streets, yet in NWO it's a steeply sloping area with lots of stairs.
I had a quest idea I was working on using Black Lake. On the official map, Black Lake, the lake itself, is about 200'x500'. The only wall nearby is the city wall, to the north of the lake. Yet in NWO, it's a large lake, so large that it had shipping before it got choked with slime and debris, and there are large walls around it.
I know they needed to make changes to make it work in a video game environment, but, not being familiar with the background for the city of Neverwinter, I hadn't realized just how much they had changed.
I don't really have a solution for this. I'm just going to move on, and build whatever fits my quest, since that's obviously what Cryptic did. It's just really frustrating to try to make something that fits the Lore and uses established locations, only to find out that the locations are nothing like what they are "supposed to be".
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The graveyard seems to be about right as well -- the north-east "rectangle" seems to be about 7-800' (kind of hard to make out where retaining walls were after the spellplague). And it seems to be about 500' wide -- seems relatively close to the map scale. The south-west "rectangle" seems to be the oddest - looks like it's own chasm happening.
The chasm? NO idea what is going on there -- that definitely seems to have collapsed/widened more than the reference map.
Some definite "oddities" floating around -- I guess WotC didn't "really" care very much. And Cryptic developers as well.
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/ Cant read the post above mine, dark text on dark background.
Yep. That's why it baffles me that (for example) a relatively small crack on the official 4E map turned into the immense chasm area we get in-game. It makes me wonder how much they're really reviewing what was done.
Is there a boxed set for Neverwinter for 4E? I thought they did a hardcover sourcebook...?
They probably adjusted the size to deal with the realities of number of players in an mmo. That would be reasonable.