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greggles1970greggles1970 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
edited May 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
Is there some where we can make suggestions for future mounts or companions even the possibility of mount pet sets with bonuses for the 2

i also Agree with various statements and comments i found in my search through the forums, about the upgrade costs being to high and companions and mounts not being sufficiently upgradable or customizable or in general even for a Free @ Play Game its a bit pricey
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  • greggles1970greggles1970 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Is there some where we can make suggestions for future mounts or companions even the possibility of mount pet sets with bonuses for the 2

    i also Agree with various statements and comments i found in my search through the forums, about the upgrade costs being to high and companions and mounts not being sufficiently upgradable or customizable or in general even for a Free @ Play Game its a bit pricey
    all character animations need some variation and should be buy once and available to your account
    that and the stupid mount and companion animations, why must my wolf or similar always be angry and snarling???
    re space taken up by dyes and flair items they like the currency it should have its own tab for all non essential items
    I too would love an option to disable enchantment visuals. I spent a lot of time and AD getting my main armour set to look just right, and now it glows blue despite this
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    After experiencing more things... the companion upgrades seem cheap now. It's the weapon/armor enchantments that are RIDICULOUS.
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    ghoulz66 wrote: »
    After experiencing more things... the companion upgrades seem cheap now. It's the weapon/armor enchantments that are RIDICULOUS.

    Hi there, I have made a thread suggesting coal wards as rewards for events. I agree with you. http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?658991-Request-to-make-an-Event-that-drops-coal-wards
  • darigaaz87darigaaz87 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I think the real problem is not the high price of upgrading a companion/mount, but what you get for upgrading them. I mean, mounts are all the same, they only change the skin, but companions are more or less different one from another. The question is: why do I have to upgrade my first companion, when for the same price (or sometimes even a lower one) I can get a better companion already upgraded? They should balance this, making all the companions worth using and worth upgrading.

    Also yes, the prices are way too high, but as others have already said they shouldn't either be too low. The prices are high because of sheer marketing strategies (if you want to upgrade your companion earlier, just give them real money and you have what you want), making lower prices will simply make purchasing ZENs worthless, and then Perfect World would suffer a huge drop in money income, probably slowing development for this and other games. They could tweak them a bit of course, and maybe they will, when the game will have a steadier player base. For now, just stick with AD farming if you don't want to spend more money.
  • melodywhrmelodywhr Member Posts: 4,220 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    [this thread was created by removing posts from a necro'd thread - posting in a thread that is over 30 days old is considered necromancy and it may contain outdated information and opinions - please do not upset kelemvor. thanks]
  • darigaaz87darigaaz87 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Why not making companions account wide, while increasing restrictions for low level characters to use them? Like, Common ones could be used by any character, Uncommon ones from lvl15, rare ones from lvl30 and epic ones at lvl60? Also, companions need some tweak for making them all worth to buy/upgrade, it could be something worth working on for developers.
  • onecoolscatcatonecoolscatcat Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 575 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The Vicious Dire Wolf is amazing. It's surprising how often that interrupt procs for CW/TR/GWF. It 's a must have on my active slots. The jury's out on the slyph, and the Panther plain sucks. I find it ironic the $200 pet is the least useful.
  • fgreyspearfgreyspear Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 472 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    You can only use one mount at a time. Not so with companions, and so the binding to characters makes sense. If Cryptic were to make them account bound then they would be selling a lot less of them and their prices would go up in return. Do you really want to pay 10,000 ZEN for a companion then?
    Stay frosty.
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ghoulz66 wrote: »
    After experiencing more things... the companion upgrades seem cheap now. It's the weapon/armor enchantments that are RIDICULOUS.

    I wouldn't say that, you can still buy another rare pet at the price of upgrading it into epic which is still pretty pricey in itself. The weapon enchants are also better than they were, at least on the higher end, they're more expensive to make lessers. The zen store price of coals are ridiculous though, luckily ah wards aren't that high yet, but are still pretty high so I agree that something should be done although nothing to completely ruin its value such as what was done with dragon eggs. The coffers for example were completely ruined though since they pretty much give you only garbage so I guess it's be nice if the average person can actually get wards from them when in reality they're lucky to get one a year if they just have 1 toon.

    Companion upgrades are something I say a minority would probably consider because they do actually give you a boost, but value wise isn't really worth it for most. Mount upgrades are just not worth it for anyone but a small small small minority will actually get it if they really like a specific mount/want to be special and dont really care about value for money.
  • jorifice1jorifice1 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Keep your eyes peeled for announcements for special deals where, if you transfer a certain amount of Zen to your Neverwinter Account (usually about $10.00 worth) you receive a free Account Bound Green Companion. They are usually some of the best Companions in the Game and, by this point, they have released enough to give you a full compliment of Active Companions on every character you have. All for Free, at least if you are in the habit of buying a little Zen every few months.

    'Wen considered the nature of time and understood that the universe is, instant by instant, recreated anew. Therefore, he understood, there is in truth no past, only a memory of the past. Blink your eyes, and the world you see next did not exist when you closed them. Therefore, he said, the only appropriate state of the mind is surprise. The only appropriate state of the heart is joy. The sky you see now, you have never seen before. The perfect moment is now. Be glad of it.' Terry Pratchet The Thief Of Time
  • levdarkenlevdarken Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    sure sounds good
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  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jorifice1 wrote: »
    Keep your eyes peeled for announcements for special deals where, if you transfer a certain amount of Zen to your Neverwinter Account (usually about $10.00 worth) you receive a free Account Bound Green Companion. They are usually some of the best Companions in the Game and, by this point, they have released enough to give you a full compliment of Active Companions on every character you have. All for Free, at least if you are in the habit of buying a little Zen every few months.

    That is a massive overstatement. There was an account wide stone of radiance which was nice, the others were more unimpressive. That's not to see that noone can appreciate or find a use for them. Just that they're not as "OMGAWESOME" as your post conveys.
  • jorifice1jorifice1 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    frishter wrote: »
    That is a massive overstatement. There was an account wide stone of radiance which was nice, the others were more unimpressive. That's not to see that noone can appreciate or find a use for them. Just that they're not as "OMGAWESOME" as your post conveys.

    Just personal opinions, I guess.
    Out of all the Companions that I've gotten from various sources since Beta I consider the two best Ranged to be the Renegade Illusionist and the (I think it's called) Storm Archer. Both are worthy of upgrading to Blue, possibly even Purple and have some nice Active Bonuses, way better than nearly all of the Purples.

    'Wen considered the nature of time and understood that the universe is, instant by instant, recreated anew. Therefore, he understood, there is in truth no past, only a memory of the past. Blink your eyes, and the world you see next did not exist when you closed them. Therefore, he said, the only appropriate state of the mind is surprise. The only appropriate state of the heart is joy. The sky you see now, you have never seen before. The perfect moment is now. Be glad of it.' Terry Pratchet The Thief Of Time
  • kabinoleskabinoles Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I think mount should be upgrade with gold,because the only thing a mount do is transportation
    And the price for upgrade a mount is ridiculous high,you can buy better things with those AD's to give you a boost on your character
    With companion is alright with AD's because it help in battle

    I try once to upgrade my mount just to see the price,I nearly shat my self.Its like 700.000 something AD's just for transportation and I get 80% I think. So what will it cost me to get to 110%, a heart attack!
    A artifact cost less and it help a lot in battle ,do you guyz see the ridiculousness of this
    Thats why for me a mount should be upgradeable in GOLD.
  • alexgabriel23alexgabriel23 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 276
    edited May 2014
    playing this game since before module 2 was launched .... frm what i see they will never remake the companion upg cost or mount they just want you to buy zen and exchange with ad so u upgrade it or buy purple comp/mounts... they could even earn more money by decreasing this costs atm almost nobody upgrades their companion and i think 2-3 frm 1000 upgrade their mounts since is not even a priority and u need it mostly for pvp the speed from mount ...

    is just a stupid greed for more cash.. . the devs should play this game more to experience a normal player gameplay
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kabinoles wrote: »
    I think mount should be upgrade with gold,because the only thing a mount do is transportation
    And the price for upgrade a mount is ridiculous high,you can buy better things with those AD's to give you a boost on your character
    With companion is alright with AD's because it help in battle

    I try once to upgrade my mount just to see the price,I nearly shat my self.Its like 700.000 something AD's just for transportation and I get 80% I think. So what will it cost me to get to 110%, a heart attack!
    A artifact cost less and it help a lot in battle ,do you guyz see the ridiculousness of this
    Thats why for me a mount should be upgradeable in GOLD.

    Considering that a reasonable amount of how they make their money is from mounts, I don't think you should have to pay gold for it. If you want a 110% one, buy the 2500 one if you don't care about fancy looks, or get one on sale or whatever. They do need to make a living after all. Even though I'd argue that the zen price costs a lot. If you farm a lot you can buy one without too much hassle. The thing is that the training tomes are more overpriced than the overpriced mounts so that noone would buy it if they care even a tiny bit about value for money. That doesn't mean you should be able to get everything easily for free. If you want a 110% mount you should either buy it or grind for it or you should ideally also have the choice to grind or buy for a similar amount for improving the speed of another mount instead of a having to spend or grind for a tonne more. Maybe even it should cost less since it only affects 1 mount instead of account wide zen mounts unless they made the tome give all future mounts 110% speed which would also be kinda cool. There's way too much gold in the economy that it wouldn't take much effort to get 110% if it cost gold.
  • istaywickedistaywicked Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    frishter wrote: »
    Considering that a reasonable amount of how they make their money is from mounts, I don't think you should have to pay gold for it. If you want a 110% one, buy the 2500 one if you don't care about fancy looks, or get one on sale or whatever. They do need to make a living after all. Even though I'd argue that the zen price costs a lot. If you farm a lot you can buy one without too much hassle. The thing is that the training tomes are more overpriced than the overpriced mounts so that noone would buy it if they care even a tiny bit about value for money. That doesn't mean you should be able to get everything easily for free. If you want a 110% mount you should either buy it or grind for it or you should ideally also have the choice to grind or buy for a similar amount for improving the speed of another mount instead of a having to spend or grind for a tonne more. Maybe even it should cost less since it only affects 1 mount instead of account wide zen mounts unless they made the tome give all future mounts 110% speed which would also be kinda cool. There's way too much gold in the economy that it wouldn't take much effort to get 110% if it cost gold.

    it does make zero sense that the most expensive mount is cheaper than the cost of upgrading a lower one. i mean why can i get a 110 mount for for only a few dollars more than the 50 or 80, but if i have a 50 and i want it 110, its like 60 dollars to upgrade? thats insane. i use an 80 that i would like to upgrade, but i dont think i ever will. i will put money into the game to support it, as i have already done, but i dont see the value in putting so much into something like that. it would be cheaper to get a different mount on sale.
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  • fatherrockfatherrock Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    normally, I would say...price is based on how useful something is, but upgrade prices are way way off

    based on the price of a replacement

    it should not cost 10 x more to get you starter healer to epic than it cost to purchase any other epic in AH
  • kabinoleskabinoles Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    As istaywicked said: it does make zero sense that the most expensive mount is cheaper than the cost of upgrading a lower one.

    This is what I am saying ,it dont make sense to upgrade a mount lvl 1 or any lvl
    because the higher your mount get the more you will shat your pants when you see the price
    and it is ridiculous that an expensive mount is cheaper then upgrading a lower one or lvl 1 mount
    And the ppl that have upgrade there mount must have ton of money to spend or at least money to spend
    because a grinder(poor ppl) like me wont upgrade a mount after you have done all that work
    I rather spend it on my character
    besides how many ppl have you seen that have upgrade a lower mount........................yeah thats what I mean
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Unfortunately it appears it's not going to change any time soon =/
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