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harbinger815
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ok I want to word this so it does not seem like a rant. The drop rates of things have gone down way too low. Namely the chests at the end of dungeons. I have played since beta and I have noticed now the drop rate or whatever you call it for the good T2 gear sets has gone way down. Now most times you get a ring/neck/belt, or as mind blowing as this is a T1 piece of gear(from T2 DD chest?!?!?). Ok next thing is the coalescent wards. Way over 100 days since HR patch that changed the drop rates. I have logged on all 5 of my characters everyday and invoked. I have recieved a total of 1 C.ward. This is seriously holding back the development of my characters.
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Well, I said to myself when they made this change.. I will play until I feel like I can't progress or I feel like the only way I can progress is to spend cash.. and then I'm just done. Haven't got there yet, but considering the big changes coming with Mod3, and how it's no doubt going to force me to change any character I want to keep playing... That time may be approaching.
It's not that I am unwilling to spend cash, mind you. I've spent a small bucket-load of money on this game. But I will NEVER spend one dime if I feel like it's required.
Sorta just hangin' out these days waiting for the other shoe to drop.. or axe to fall, or whatever...
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The whole point of free2play is that you can farm pretty much anything.
I realize you probably aren't talking directly to or about me, but I (as I said) have spent a LOT of money on this game. I am well justified in commenting on what I will and will not pay for.
Everyone knows all the ways to get Coals. It is only one of the things being chatted about here. I think the bigger issue is that there is now such a wide range of things they have setup to drop, that it forces things into a rarer frequency than is necessary or really was intended.
Talking about it is how it gets re-considered, if it ever does (and if what I am seeing lately is any indication, it has been.)
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While Coal Wards are far rarer now they are much less needed than before. In order to create a Perfect Enchantment you need 15 in total. Down from 87.
Let's say Coal Wards are 250K each now. That's 3.75M in Coal Wards.
Let's say they were 100K before. (They were closer to 130K) That's 8.7M AS in Coal Wards.
Even if we count in the 10 Greater Marks of Potency there is 4M of AD I would have to see before I considered any increase in coal ward rarity to be an issue.
And before the "but I want it for free" statement comes out...
Item values in MMO's are defined by supply and demand just as it is in the real world. However whether you decide to supply an item to the open market or not it still retains that value because the fact it exists effects the demand. In other words even if you do not sell an item drop by definition you are also not in demand for that item thus lowering the demand (and the price).
That's how demand works. Even if you do not by an item for whatever reason (normally due to cost) you still effect the demand as you still want (demand) an item but just will not spend the money to get one.
A prime example is top of the line computer components. I would imagine everybody here would love a top of the line computer but will not spend the money on it. If the price was was cut in half how many more people here would buy those computers? How about if the price was cut to 10%?
Demand is the number of people interested in an item. The price is simply defined where supply and demand meet an equilibrium:
When Cryptic reduced the demand for Coalescent Wards (6x Less Needed to Upgrade Enchatments) they also had to then reduce the supply otherwise the price of them would drop to a pittance. To which we go back to my original statement, even if they are rarer and even if they are more expensive per coalescent ward it is still cheaper now than it was before.
Economics can't be looked at with a microscope. You have to take a step back and look at the complete picture in order to make an accurate assessment of any situation. Saying something is rare is not going to be considered a problem if the expense is still lower.
You will increase Your chance on the day of producing a coal.
The simplest reason why something went rare in NW, is that someone wants people spending more ADs to buy it from elsewhere, which would increase its price on the AH. More ADs required, more actual money spent on charging zen.
"Follow the trail of the money, and you will soon know whodunnit"
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
You needed one coalescent and four shards to make an enchant in the old system.
You STILL need one coalescent and four shards...except now you need roughly twice as much AD because the ward has doubled in price.
Previous 7-coin box droprates were essentially good enough to make it likely you could make your first lesser armour/weapon enchants without having to buy wards, but because of the sheer number needed to go from lesser upward, the supply of freebie wards wasn't enough to carry you to perfects. So getting enchants at all was not too expensive, but getting top-notch ones was more of an effort. This is no longer realistically the case. Getting top notch-ones is easier, but getting lessers at all is much more expensive.
If you're at the stage of "working on your first weapon/armour enchants", then half a million AD for two coalescents is...quite an outlay.
Not at all. That is your own impatience.
The only interest Cryptic has in AD value is making sure that the market doesn't crash one way or the other and that is for the benefit of the free players. If they really wanted to be greedy they would simply put a Zen cost on enchanting and remove wards altogether.
I really do get tired of people trying to say their own impatience is Cryptic's greed.
250K AD is ten days of playing the game.
On top of that as I already outlined they cut the total price to get a Perfect Enchantment in half. There's no reality in which price reductions equate to making more money. The only greed there is by the players who reach for their wallet instead of their swords.
...and I get tired of people treating the situation of the market as equal for everyone, when in fact it is not.
Besides, its those "greedy people" that allows the developers to receive their paychecks, so becareful who you insult.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
do u stack them or open them as they come
Stack them weekly. I send all the Coffers to Trace and then open them at once. Again, only three wards since the changes, but it's better than nothing.
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hmm i thought they are bound
Coffers are account bound (the blue ones, anyway 7/7).
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since the patch. I am no longer even wasting my time even bothering with the 7 day coins. I dont want anything in them.
I've pretty much given up on getting coal wards. The prices are constantly rising. And buying them from from the Zen store is becoming unfeasible as the prices of the zen from the AD trade has continued to rise.