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Dev Tracker thread...still no GF news!!
snappa0126
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Every day I read the dev tracker thread to see if there are any changes to GF's....NONE...
They keep buffing the hell out of HR's...talk about TR's...talk about GWF's...occasionally they mention CW's but NEVER do they say anything about GF's (other than a black ice change to a helm) !!!!!!
Developers please give us old school GF's some type of indication that there is light at the end of the tunnel for us. Our class is the only class that has NOT been touched (other than nerfs) since release!!!
Signed,
<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>
Dragon Server
They keep buffing the hell out of HR's...talk about TR's...talk about GWF's...occasionally they mention CW's but NEVER do they say anything about GF's (other than a black ice change to a helm) !!!!!!
Developers please give us old school GF's some type of indication that there is light at the end of the tunnel for us. Our class is the only class that has NOT been touched (other than nerfs) since release!!!
Signed,
<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>
Dragon Server
HAMSTER, level 60 GF, "Bloodthirsty" since Mod 2
Anarchist, level 60 CW
Arsenic, level 60 TR
Pluck Yew, level 60 HR
Therapissed, level 60 DC
Anarchist, level 60 CW
Arsenic, level 60 TR
Pluck Yew, level 60 HR
Therapissed, level 60 DC
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They FINALLY acknowledged that GF needed to be looked at about 2 months ago, but after chatting with a "friend", I found out that there are no immediate plans to do a damned thing with the GF class other than continue to nerf it through Mod3.
Don't take my word for it, my knowledge is 3rd hand, but don't be shocked when Mod3 rolls right on through and GF just passes the 1 year of development without so much as a glance by the Developers...
GF + GWF =2 Fighter classes. That's redundant and unnecessary. Ignore one, work on all the others.
I only started playing in mid-December, but the GF class didn't seem that bad. Maybe I was just being more objective and not necessarily trying to see them as a tank class, more of an aggro/controller/interceptor type. I did feel underpowered before the Tenacity patch for sure, but then I was a CQ type with an overinflated gear score. They recently removed the GS boost from Reckless Attacker, and on the preview patch my GS dropped from over 15k to just under 13k. And in retrospect, considering that was my "true" gear score, it wasn't really all that bad.
The only nerf from that patch was Frontline Surge, which got a power decrease but a target cap increase, making it worse for PvP but the same/better for PvE. The new and improved Griffon's Wrath with the CQ path + some Tactician is brilliant for PvP. Lunging Strike's AoE makes it a perfect compliment to Fighter's Recovery to make up for the power decrease in Frontline Surge. Many of the other skills were boosted as well.
I'm not exactly pleased with the decision to nerf the Knight Captain Armor. I would have preferred that they boost the other PvE armors to be on par with it. To me that would have been a more elegant solution to all this which would prevent GFs from being OP in PvP. But honestly, it wouldn't take much. It really wouldn't...
If they decide to boost the rest of the PvE armors (and hopefully trim back on the Knight Captain Armor nerf), problem solved.
If they give the GF an inherent PvE only DPS/aggro boost, problem solved.
If they boost certain skills which are most useful in PvE anyway, like increasing the target caps for Frontline Surge and Enforced Taunt, and maybe increase the AoE damage of Lunging Strike (the AoE barely does anything in PvP anyways), problem solved.
I'd like to see all three of these be done, but any combination would solve the GF plight.
And after all, they DID nerf GWFs in the preview shard...
You are entirely too new to even comment on this thread. You state that you started in December? You haven't even figured out your own class yet, which is probably a CW. I assume that because you think GF's are fine and those are the only class we can somewhat slaughter on a regular basis.
Frontline Surge was our bread and butter for the prone..no other reason...we used frontline surge to give our teams time to reach us while we held a point. The prone duration has been nerfed greatly.
Griffon's Wrath is a joke... I don't recommend any GF use this for PvP.
Lunging Strike is a must for PvP as we need it to reach CW's and HR's.
R/
<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>
Anarchist, level 60 CW
Arsenic, level 60 TR
Pluck Yew, level 60 HR
Therapissed, level 60 DC
I don't know what you're talking about. I AM a lv 60 GF with full Timeless and Knight Captain and I've beaten most of the dungeons. It's pretty much the only class I play. My CW is only lv 20. lol. I'm not claiming to be an expert, or even that great, but honestly in a one on one fight I'm not especially terrified of anyone other than a perma-stealth TR.
Griffon's Wrath is not a joke when you've got Trample the Fallen and Combat Superiority on along with Staggering Challenge in the CQ path. The only drawback is that it requires excellent timing. Of course Lunging Strike is a must. Who was saying it's not?
All I was saying is that the developers know something is wrong. Are they taking the proper steps to fix the Guardian Fighter? Not yet. Have they at least tried? Yes. Will the continue to try? Most likely.
If by "figuring out" my class you mean have I achieved a 15k gear score without the assistance of Reckless Attacker? Then no. But I know how most of the dungeon fights work. I've gotten positive K/D on plenty of PvP matches. I do have some of the highest tier gear. And I'm having fun.
I completely agree that GFs need a power boost. I'm just saying the required changes aren't that dramatic. It's just a matter of when the developers get around to making them, not if.
I think playing the same class for 4 and a half months qualifies me to speak on the forums.
I also have full timeless and KC but I really don't care right now about PvE. I am talking from a PvP aspect. If you are only afraid of a TR in a 1v1 then you may need to fight more HR's and GWF's and even a CW once in a blue moon.
No comment really other than I would rather use anvil of doom to finish up the people with health lower than 25%. AoD's cooldown needs to be changed from 16 seconds to 10 seconds.
How would we know the Developers are taking proper steps to fix GFs? Have you read something that I haven't? If so, please show me where the Developers admit that GF's are jacked up and they are going to take a look at fixing them. The whole purpose of this post is to notify developers that we want an update on our class. Something that they have NOT done.
Power is being nerfed in the near future. We do need a HUGE boost. It's sad that classes with gear scores 3k lower than ours outdo us in everything.
Anarchist, level 60 CW
Arsenic, level 60 TR
Pluck Yew, level 60 HR
Therapissed, level 60 DC
The developers are not saying anything , and anything you say on thier behalf is nothing but speculation augmented by thier silence. Nothing for mod 3. Nothing.
It would only be nice to see just some changes.
The Guard Meter much more strenghened -- perma stealth with great damage is possible, but perma blocking alone is not possible? Why? Why not enhancing even more the strengh of blocking for the GF? Why? And with a protection against high damage spikes and fast attacks? The block is too fast broken and then it is dead and not so easily ready again.
(Or changing the block mechanics completely.)
Better speed for Encounteres like Iron Warrior or Enforced Threat or Into the Fray, and At-Wills like Cleave and Crushing Surge -- a GF is one of the most pokey class.
That alone would help a bit, but right now, a Guardian Fighter is easily controlled and only a simple nice pet to have around.