Did they nerf starting DD early before the time?

qutsemnie

We used to start DD before the start time of the DD chest. Today we started Korrandax early, got to the end after DD started, and had no DD chest after the boss. We noted that now it said in a big yellow word, "must start dungeon After the start time", so I assuming this isn't a bug and a change?

Just want to confirm so we don't miss out.

sugarlies

It's been like that at least ever since I started playing (around 3 months). The chest works like this: you must enter the dungeon within the DD timeframe. You can finish it after DD is over and the chest will still be there (it will say chest unlocked for the duration of your dungeon). Just don't disconnect or leave the dungeon after the DD frame is gone.

rashylewizz

Did you guys log out during the dungeon?

qutsemnie

sugarlies wrote: »

It's been like that at least ever since I started playing (around 3 months). The chest works like this: you must enter the dungeon within the DD timeframe.

I played this game for 2 months, T2 gear, and we have always started before the time since about our second dungeon delve (me and friends). Back when we first started, I read you used to need to log in and out after the DD started, and we decided to start early to test that theory (this was about two months ago). We went in and just found the chest to be unlocked if you started early, so basically every day for two months we started delves early. Not a new thing. Zero doubt. We even had occasions where we sat before the final boss waiting for the timer to tick down (Idris, PK, FH all memories in my head where we sat waiting for the DD hour to start right outside the final boss).

Occasionally we would pick up people and they would be surprised you could do this. Personally we never thought anything of it.

Did you guys log out during the dungeon?

One of us went LD, but nobody else did. After we got to the end and nobody could loot I tried going to character select and going back in, but it didn't work. Dungeon delves was at 30 minutes until the end when I tried that. Karrandfax was already dead.


So are we thinking no change? OR change?

sugarlies

I have actually tested this out when I started, because a guildy told me the chest would unlock during DD, no matter when I entered. It did not. So to each his own, but that is my experience (and it fits what you are currently describing).

mvffin1

I've seen the chest unlock multiple times on different dungeons, but I have also had it not unlock during Karrundax. Unfortunately, we didn't realize it until it was too late to relog.

I haven't tested every single dungeon, but I think it's a problem with Karrundax.

qutsemnie

Well the producer says the pre-clear behavior is intended play, and also the "After" text has been in since the beginning I just never noticed it, so I am think we ran into a one-off bug. Maybe you ran into it to way back when you checked this. Wouldn't that be amusing

Panderus wrote:

This is totally intended and part of why we implemented the events, to get you to think about "whats coming up next" and drive players towards a similar activity at a specific time window. The same can be done with Skirmishes as well, if you wait to open the chest until the event is active (though level 60 only has 1 event right now).

http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?316671-Dungeon-Delves-Preclearing-exploit-or-not&p=4088122&viewfull=1#post4088122

qutsemnie

mvffin1 wrote: »

I've seen the chest unlock multiple times on different dungeons, but I have also had it not unlock during Karrundax. Unfortunately, we didn't realize it until it was too late to relog.

I haven't tested every single dungeon, but I think it's a problem with Karrundax.

Leaning towards this. Thanks man. We almost wrote in our head to never pre-clear again from this incident, and then I started thinking why wouldn't there be a note?

Anyway I think mystery solved.

ambisinisterr

All dungeons used to require you to relog to activate the chest. Cryptic changed that with the release of Module 2.

Apparently there is an issue with Karrundax in which the chest will not automatically activate. Our community bug squasher has taken note of it and it has been reported to the devs.

pitshade

Karru and VT have been bugged since the feature was added. You can relog but there are a few bugs related to that. Sometimes one or more party members will show up in PE, sometimes people will be put back at the start. Worse, I got put back in PE relogging this weekend, hit "Return to Instance' and lost my party. This was from the last campfire so it wasn't that long before we could group up again. Still, no loot roll or chest for me.

Anyway, if you're planning on multiple dungeons and want to preclear, don't start with Karru. If you only want one dungeon during the delve, start after the event.

silence1x

Was running a Idris last night with guildmates. We started before DD began. We got to Idris with 11 minutes left so we just did other stuff. Once DD started, 4 of us got the "Chest Unlocked" message but one person did not. He didn't relog so I have no idea if that would have fixed it.

ironzerg79

Yes, the DD event should activate if you're in a dungeon when the hour comes up. Some dungeons, like Karrundax are bugged and require you to exit to the change character screen and then log back in.

But it is intended that you get the DD chest if you're in the dungeon when it starts. Pre-clearing is an accepted method by the Devs.