Ioun stone of radiance bug, and how it has been ''fixed''?

js3b

Ok so it has been a month since this promotion been done.
I did try to send a ticket on the issue and after multiple random, non related answer. They finaly told me to come. Not going to share the discussion as it is againts the TOS but here i am...

We all remember the bug that happened with the BOE stones.
Now most people will say this is not a big problem but for me it is.

Let look at it from different angle:

People that received the promo and abused the bug: happy, got money out of a bug, exploiter, mostly claiming the 'i did not know it was a bug bull$%&*'
People that received the promo and did not abuse the bug: Dont care or feel tricked.
People that received the item from an ''exploiter'': Happy, got a free stone, still fully working.
People that did not take the free stone that were being sent to everyone by mail, that were sold for 1 gold: Feel like they should have been part of the abuse and take the stone...


For I, am part of the people that received the promo and refused to sell any of them. I feel tricked.


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People will mostly say ''haaa you did not pay for the item how does this affect you?''
- Well I did not pay directly for the item but I had no need for 1000 zen bought them for the sole reason of getting the stone
- I refused to abuse the bug as exploiting is something that should be severely punished by any online comunnity as it ruin the game for people that work their way out w/o using these exploit.
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Here what have been known on the ''fix'' so far:

-They made the stone back to bind on pickup.
-Rumors talk of some ban here and there. Are they true? I doubt it! Why? I know people that did sell stone and are still playing in a daily basis.
-People that received a stone still have full access to it and haven't receive any punish either.
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What I think should be done ?

-Well exploiter (those who sold the stone) should be punised. I am not talking of a permanent ban, but something at least...
-Comunity should be made aware of the action taken in this maner
-Tricked stone should be removed or people that received the promotion and did not exploit should have a compensation.
-Customer service should accept to receive ticket in regards to exploit issue like this one.
-Forum should be accepting discution on exploit (not providing the actual exploit way but discussion on the way they affect the community).


Now I sure know lot of community member will answer this thread, feel free to do so. But most of all i would like to receive Developer or other member of the team so OFFICIAL statement in regard to this issue please.

devaneio

http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?630061-Unfair-punishment
that's all folks

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http://www.reddit.com/r/Neverwinter/comments/20ebgk/people_getting_banned_over_last_weeks_stonergate/

js3b

Happy to see some people might have been punished for this mather, but the problem still is there as many stone been (may i say) duplicated and are still around.

Hopefully they start punishing exploit as it is suposed to be for that kind of usage. I know they do, did, and will keep taking action in these times but they should give a feedback to the community to let them know.

Here what we found:
Here what we did:
Here what we suggest if you fall on an exploit: (just for those who don't know already)

skalt112

Probably a matter of economics. finding and removing every exploited stone would be to costly. Giving away more value as compensation would be dumb, because no one deserves any comepensation other than what they should have gotten for the promotion.

some people made out, some people got perma banned. The bans say it's not ok to do this. No mixed message here. If some people got over, well it's the price of doing business in the virtual world, but you deserve nothing just because you did the right thing. Crappy , i know, but that is life. You will always come out on top, in the long run, by doing the right thing. Sometimes, though, people get away with stuff.

js3b

skalt112 wrote: »

Probably a matter of economics. finding and removing every exploited stone would be to costly. Giving away more value as compensation would be dumb, because no one deserves any comepensation other than what they should have gotten for the promotion.

some people made out, some people got perma banned. The bans say it's not ok to do this. No mixed message here. If some people got over, well it's the price of doing business in the virtual world, but you deserve nothing just because you did the right thing. Crappy , i know, but that is life. You will always come out on top, in the long run, by doing the right thing. Sometimes, though, people get away with stuff.

Well that does not give anyone the push to use those promo, when you can just not use them and get the item anyway in that case.. Giving a compensation is to tell their good customer that they are sorry about the disagreement that was caused by this issue that were mainly their fault, not ours... I think that it is unfair to those whoe spent money to use the promo that they let it be like this.

eldarth

Sooooo what. Do you want a reward for NOT exploiting?
Do you want Cryptic to "deputize" you to hunt down and punish all those sacrilegious exploiters?

Life's not fair. Deal with it. Let karma deal with them.

sean99999

They had better take action.

So far, my impression of perfect world : The majority of bug abusers are rewarded, not punished.

rashylewizz

sean99999 wrote: »

They had better take action.

So far, my impression of perfect world : The majority of bug abusers are rewarded, not punished.

A very few selection of people did get banned for this

js3b

eldarth wrote: »

Sooooo what. Do you want a reward for NOT exploiting?
Do you want Cryptic to "deputize" you to hunt down and punish all those sacrilegious exploiters?

Life's not fair. Deal with it. Let karma deal with them.

Realy, the life's not fair line.. no need to fall on the sophistry here... PW screwed up on this, i did not. Im not asking to be rewarded, im asking for action to be taken. If its too complicated for them to just destroy all those that are not suposed to be there by a quick script check up in the next update, well if the only way for them to fix it is to give all those people that actualy deserved the promo an extra thank you for your support gift, then yea be it...

ambisinisterr

Okay let me try to keep this concise.

1. Punishments were applied to people who abused this exploit depending on the severity of the abuse.

2. Last I heard there may be further actions taken. Obviously the information I was given was subject to change but there may be more done to correct this matter.

For now we leave it at that. I am sorry but this threads future is quite apparent.
Half of the people will say stuff happens. The other half will insult PWE. And in the end all it does is get people even more upset. So we're going to skip to the end and close the thread.

PWE already knows you are feeling the way you do. They knew as soon as the issue occurred and they will do whatever they can to make it right.



And in case the person who posts have been removed sees:
This forum is for the English speaking community only. If I can't read what is written I can't know if it violates any rules.
Normally I would contact you privately to do my best to direct you accordingly but using a kindle poses challenges in translating. Hopefully Eldarth was able to help and please do NOT post your personal contact information on PWE forums.

lewstelamon01

It also should be noted that PWE does not disclose actions taken against any account with anyone but the affected party, pursuant to their privacy policies. So you will never see public disclosure of exact actions taken. The closest that PWE will ever get is to say that "appropriate action has been taken against some accounts". Simply because you don't see the consequence you want doesn't mean that no action was taken.