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WHats the worst class in the game as of today?

ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
Choose what class is the least fun, least used / needed.


DC

CW

TR

HR

GWF

GF
Shieldbash 60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard 19.0k
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
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  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Well at least we can get a scale of what everyone is feeling, so far DC and GF are winning the loser status!
    Shieldbash 60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard 19.0k
    Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
    ==========================================


    ~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
  • gingerbulbgingerbulb Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    For PvE or PvP?
  • pers3phonepers3phone Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    :\

    People voted for their own classes lol.

    Why not.

    Improve ME (MEMEMME!) haha.

    Not voting, but:

    GF/HR for PvE
    CW for PvP
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    pers3phone wrote: »
    :\

    People voted for their own classes lol.

    Why not.

    Improve ME (MEMEMME!) haha.

    Not voting, but:

    GF/HR for PvE
    CW for PvP

    Even if people voted for their own classes, I'm still disturbed that GWF got a vote. CW I can see as they're weaker in pvp, but my gwf feels like a god in pve and pvp.
  • desudesu3desudesu3 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    On NeverwinterPreview Shard DC in pvp most worst class.Self heal 30%, tem hp -50%, armor pen not workin on 3 dps spells(BotS,FF,BtS), and with hight DR of enemies(20-40% base+15-25% ten), DC can't kill enemy. Very well devs, you just kill this class in pvp(no heal, no dmg, just target dummy).
  • hiddenfatehiddenfate Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I voted DC but I'd like to also give an honorable mention to GF. They're about equal but GF is a little more useful because it has some semblance of self-sustainability. DC is unable to take care of itself at all :| and the heal over time BS that Cryptic gave us instead of the standard core spellbook is utter garbage.
  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Keep voting people, and comment nice to hear others complaints and ideas.
    Shieldbash 60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard 19.0k
    Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
    ==========================================


    ~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
  • pers3phonepers3phone Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    Even if people voted for their own classes, I'm still disturbed that GWF got a vote. CW I can see as they're weaker in pvp, but my gwf feels like a god in pve and pvp.

    You know, the poll is poorly worded.

    "What's the worst class in NWO that you feel needs to be worked on"

    So...

    Worst as in... inefficient? Or overpowered? Imbalanced?

    Cause neither of these are good.

    This might be an explanation why 2 GWFs voted their own class as "worst" :P Maybe they just think it's OP (hmm...) :P
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    the worst classes in game in pve are tr and gf all other are still good they can easy make them more wanted by nerfeing spell storm cw and sentinel gwf need big nerf as well it wrong to have def focused path to out preform dps paths in damage in pvp
  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I intentionally worded it openly as to allow discussion... I also posted below that as I've never used this poll feature I was unawrae really what I was doing.






    Choose what class is the least fun, least used / needed.


    DC

    CW

    TR

    HR

    GWF

    GF




    pers3phone wrote: »
    You know, the poll is poorly worded.

    "What's the worst class in NWO that you feel needs to be worked on"

    So...

    Worst as in... inefficient? Or overpowered? Imbalanced?

    Cause neither of these are good.

    This might be an explanation why 2 GWFs voted their own class as "worst" :P Maybe they just think it's OP (hmm...) :P
    Shieldbash 60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard 19.0k
    Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
    ==========================================


    ~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You really need to differentiate between PvE and PvP, as the relative power of a class in each of these can vary incredibly - for instance CWs are godlike in PvE but only decent in organized teams for PvP.

    That having been said, I think that in PvE that the HR TR and GF are pretty underpowered right now. But if I had to choose, I would say the GF as tanks are all but irrelevant in PvE. A tanky, good DPS class such as the current (Module 2) GWF is very nice and useful, but a tank class with just mediocre DPS such as the GF, brings no (or very little) advantage to a party.
  • slushpsychoslushpsycho Member Posts: 657 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    someone actually voted GWF lol?
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  • astronaxastronax Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    pers3phone wrote: »
    :\

    People voted for their own classes lol.

    Why not.

    CW for PvP

    Lol just 2 people voted for CWs! I knew I can count on you, <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, so I won't be alone ;)
    (We need MOAR fellow wizards to vote here ;) )
  • mvffin1mvffin1 Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    For pve, I say TR and GF. Nobody ever wants them, and with good reason. Gf is a one trick pony with kiting, and Tr is a single target dps in a game where mobs are 15 deep. Hr is a great dps class, but there are too many bad players giving the class a bad reputation. Nature path smiles need a little more love too.
    In pvp, I feel the most gimped as GF or Dc. Neither class Has a solid offense or defense.
  • pers3phonepers3phone Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    astronax wrote: »
    Lol just 2 people voted for CWs! I knew I can count on you, <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, so I won't be alone ;)
    (We need MOAR fellow wizards to vote here ;) )

    Yeah I cannot really vote though, because some GWFs voted for GWF class.

    Is that meaning that they think GWFs are bad cause they are so OP?

    Then you see, I cannot vote CW.

    People might think CWs are OP in PvP :)
  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This thread is pointless because the answer is within the AH. Prices for GF gear is dirt cheap, it is therefore the least-played and least desirable class.
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  • katbozejziemikatbozejziemi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    GWF: 5
    HR: 3

    Hilarious.
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    pers3phone wrote: »
    You know, the poll is poorly worded.

    "What's the worst class in NWO that you feel needs to be worked on"

    So...

    Worst as in... inefficient? Or overpowered? Imbalanced?

    Cause neither of these are good.

    This might be an explanation why 2 GWFs voted their own class as "worst" :P Maybe they just think it's OP (hmm...) :P

    Quite simply. reason is, as i explained in another thread: right now, on the right build, GWF feels way too cheap in PvP. Talking about the IV sent build, which basically allows you to dominate with little effort. There's no real tactic to be applied, and that's why i went for a less tanky, more DPS focused build: at least it feels more fun to rely even a bit more on sprint and footwork to survive, and to have to take down the enemies to stay alive (i can't tank as much as a full tank build, so i need to catch my enemy and burn him down fast).

    Also, i noticed everyone voted for their own class :D So why not.

    And, also, a bit of irony to troll the "omfg GWFs godmode" crowd :cool: I wanted to read them going mad for that one tiny vote on a little poll on the forums. How could someone vote for GWFs!!!111! :D I couldn't resist, i'm sorry.

    Talking seriously, i think CWs and DCs need love in PvP, GFs in PvE. At least with a dungeon design that makes their tanking ability really needed.
  • demidogzdemidogz Member Posts: 259 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    OP, since you phrased the question as:
    Whats the worst class in the game as of today, that you feel needs to be worked on?

    I assume you're asking for the worst in design and mechanics instead of "maximum" effectiveness in PvE or PvP <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.

    My vote will definitely go to the GWF, and the reason..... never mind, you get the point.
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    Not a clear question.

    GWFs, thanks to the IV Sent lolbuilds, will understandably be considered the ''worst'' class by many because they are just ridiculously overpowered in PvP. If I press ''X'' in PvP and see 2 or 3 GWFs in the enemy team I want to hang myself because I am almost certain they are IV Sents. My only hope is that they are not premades or are undergeared/poorly played.

    The answer to this question, due to its ambiguity, will have many angles.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    thestaggy wrote: »
    Not a clear question.

    GWFs, thanks to the IV Sent lolbuilds, will understandably be considered the ''worst'' class by many because they are just ridiculously overpowered in PvP. If I press ''X'' in PvP and see 2 or 3 GWFs in the enemy team I want to hang myself because I am almost certain they are IV Sents. My only hope is that they are not premades or are undergeared/poorly played.

    The answer to this question, due to its ambiguity, will have many angles.

    Exactly - I am surprised some people failed to realise this.
  • pers3phonepers3phone Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    pando83 wrote: »
    Quite simply. reason is, as i explained in another thread: right now, on the right build, GWF feels way too cheap in PvP. Talking about the IV sent build, which basically allows you to dominate with little effort.

    Talking seriously, i think CWs and DCs need love in PvP, GFs in PvE. At least with a dungeon design that makes their tanking ability really needed.

    Smart words. I would add HRs for PvE, although I'm not entirely sure; I've played with 2 (yeah just 2 lol) HRs that before we reached Draco managed to top my PvP CW in damage, but in the end lost a few mils. This is quite an accomplishment for the class, not to mention they synergize poorly with other classes such as CW in PvE. So given the fact that HR should be pretty much be Ranged DPS in this game, they should push the same numbers as CWs and GWFs.

    DCs seem to me fine for PvE; What I would however do for them, is add a pure DPS paragon, that would allow DC to deal good damage, while also keeping some party buffs and small heals, essentially turning them into a hybrid DPS. They are also fine in PvP, they can hold nodes, heal and also stall the most dangerous players on the field, the IV sents. All they need to do is build and gear properly.

    CW for PvE is perfect. No need touching this. GWF - same. Both classes feel amazing, and it's a pleasure to do PvE with them. Other classes however, need some significant tweaks to be brought up to par.

    CW for PvP? Yes, I still play it, and yes I enjoy it, but only because I'm a mage in all the RPGs I play - it's a matter of fidelity to magic ranged DPS. Other than this, the class needs just as much love as GF needs for PvE.
  • zacazuzacazu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,934 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    let's see:

    cw need a kryptonite for pvp.

    gf ... I do not know.

    superman, ops, gwf needs internal cleaning.

    rogue needs a rebalancing between damage and stealth. and need the ability to disarm traps become important.

    dc needs than previous classes take damage ...


    I will vote for rogue hoping that the game will have deadly traps.
  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    So i am sorry im not a word scholar? For someone so well versed you didn't read my line below that?


    WHats the worst class in the game as of today?

    Choose what class is the least fun, least used / needed.


    DC

    CW

    TR

    HR

    GWF

    GF



    pando83 wrote: »
    Quite simply. reason is, as i explained in another thread: right now, on the right build, GWF feels way too cheap in PvP. Talking about the IV sent build, which basically allows you to dominate with little effort. There's no real tactic to be applied, and that's why i went for a less tanky, more DPS focused build: at least it feels more fun to rely even a bit more on sprint and footwork to survive, and to have to take down the enemies to stay alive (i can't tank as much as a full tank build, so i need to catch my enemy and burn him down fast).

    Also, i noticed everyone voted for their own class :D So why not.

    And, also, a bit of irony to troll the "omfg GWFs godmode" crowd :cool: I wanted to read them going mad for that one tiny vote on a little poll on the forums. How could someone vote for GWFs!!!111! :D I couldn't resist, i'm sorry.

    Talking seriously, i think CWs and DCs need love in PvP, GFs in PvE. At least with a dungeon design that makes their tanking ability really needed.
    Shieldbash 60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard 19.0k
    Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
    ==========================================


    ~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Choose what class is the least fun, least used / needed.

    Isn't it what i wrote? O.o that i voted GWF cause it feels cheap/ not fun these days.

    May be i got it wrong, may be you quoted me for another reason O.o
  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Even if people were voting for different reason its pretty obvious which class needs some help!

    I don't think lunging strike causing a cone effect, nerfing frontline surge, and allowing the GF to block non originating spell attacks will be the fix.
    Shieldbash 60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard 19.0k
    Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
    ==========================================


    ~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
  • sathadosathado Member Posts: 34
    edited March 2014
    Lol, GF is ok, they have cool def and normal dmg.DC can't nothing.
  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    sathado wrote: »
    Lol, GF is ok, they have cool def and normal dmg.DC can't nothing.


    Blocking 4 attacks and being completely useless is cool?
    Shieldbash 60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard 19.0k
    Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
    ==========================================


    ~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
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