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[PvP] Bilethorne vs. GF Guard

kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
edited January 2014 in The Thieves' Den
How does Bilethorn enchantment fare in ticking away GF guard?
Would it be as reliable as eating away with TR stealth?

I'm finding Plaguefire-Disheatening Strike is reliable, but still ticks too slow to really deal away enough guard on time, and as meticulous and long-winded the job is, it leaves room for error in which case, one unlucky knock-prone makes things really bad.

Is guard ticked off based upon the amount of damage done?
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  • todesfaelletodesfaelle Member Posts: 1,370 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I have a GF and haven't really noticed BT eating up my Guard. It ticks, I hear my guard being chipped at, but I notice no depletion to my meter whether I have my shield raised or not.

    In PVP, I just use Cloud of Steel to deplete my opponent's Guard Meter. Some DoT's will not affect a GF's guard as far as I can remember. It has to be either AoE or Direct Damage.
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    todesfaelle wrote: »
    I have a GF and haven't really noticed BT eating up my Guard. It ticks, I hear my guard being chipped at, but I notice no depletion to my meter whether I have my shield raised or not.

    In PVP, I just use Cloud of Steel to deplete my opponent's Guard Meter. Some DoT's will not affect a GF's guard as far as I can remember. It has to be either AoE or Direct Damage.

    Got it. No DoTs.. Direct damage only. Check.

    Thanks!
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
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  • spicenspicen Member Posts: 248 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    Duelists Flurry+Bilethorn. Good bye shield. Atleast it used to be so, unless they fixed block meter finally. Haven't really paid much attention to it because mostly GFs aren't an issue for me in 1v1 situations.
  • zokirzokir Member Posts: 369 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    The shield depletes with a duelists flurry without bilethorn.
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  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    zokir wrote: »
    The shield depletes with a duelists flurry without bilethorn.

    ^this.

    Having been on the receiving end, DF from any well geared TR will rapidly deplete Guard. That said, it does appear to be a bit more consistent than Vorpal.

    But its been a while since I've lost my Guard to DF. I tend to kite the instant I see the first or second frame of the DF animation, waiting just in range for just after the dodge roll to return fire, and I'm happy to soak a few hits of CoS but Guard IS spam. So, the real killer to an experienced GF is actually not DF Guard depletion but hard-hitting IS spam *then* a powerful attack sequence.
  • slushpsychoslushpsycho Member Posts: 657 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    1 rotation of DF = 80% guard meter gone unless that GF stack like 55% DR or use some kind of feat or gear to increase his guard meter amount.

    And your dagger does a really good job at breaking guard as well. So if you have problem breaking a GF's guard you have to be pretty green on TR or the GF is pretty pro.
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    slushpsycho wrote: »
    1 rotation of DF = 80% guard meter gone unless that GF stack like 55% DR or use some kind of feat or gear to increase his guard meter amount.

    And your dagger does a really good job at breaking guard as well. So if you have problem breaking a GF's guard you have to be pretty green on TR or the GF is pretty pro.

    ...or, does not use the cookie-cutter Impact Shot/Cloud of Steel spamming. :)
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