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Why is Steam panther better than Hero of North panther?

ravenlock99ravenlock99 Member Posts: 68 Arc User
edited December 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Has glowing blue eyes, runes all over it's body and provides life steal. Plus it actually is close to black like a real panther should be and not this dark greysh color the hotn panther is.
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  • indolo238indolo238 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 51
    edited December 2013
    As optimistic as I usually try to be, when I think of the HotN panther, all I can think is "because they already got our money". They haven't done anything about the way the panther spends half or all of a fight preparing to pounce on an enemy, after months of complaints, so I don't expect the HoTN panther to ever get any attention. I do wonder if the steam panther has the same problem though.

    All my HoTN panther is good for is sword coast adventures.
  • rortierortie Member Posts: 178 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    Is it really that bad? That would make the Guardian Pack's Dire Wolf better!
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  • indolo238indolo238 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 51
    edited December 2013
    The Guardian Pack's Dire Wolf is better.
  • mrspumamrspuma Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    My lvl 30 HotN panther is pretty black. But the Steam one has a better active bonus. If it was account-wide I'd probably have bought it, even tho I don't personally like the weird glowy blue rune thingies. But it isn't, and from what I've seen it isn't any better attack-wise, so...meh.
  • kingslayer74kingslayer74 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 75
    edited December 2013
    I've heard/read several say the Guardian's Dire Wolf's abilities are much better than the HotN Panther.

    I usually get generic mobs dead by the time my Panther pounces.

    It reminds me of the fire extinguisher robot in the first Iron Man movie when he's testing the flight of the rocket boots in the garage. :/
  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,983 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    It might be my imagination, or wishful thinking, but I had my Panther with me out on the ice (yes, yes, I was fishing!) And it 'seemed' after the xxxx.8 patch yesterday (the one that re-fixed the fishing holes and the crash bug) that he was a little more responsive, he was actually knocking the skeletons prone before I could get by bow up and start shooting he just 'seemed' a bit more aggressive ...

    I think maybe Cryptic did another one of the vewy vewy sneekwy AI updates ... o.0

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  • ironyogaironyoga Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    mrspuma wrote: »
    My lvl 30 HotN panther is pretty black. But the Steam one has a better active bonus. If it was account-wide I'd probably have bought it, even tho I don't personally like the weird glowy blue rune thingies. But it isn't, and from what I've seen it isn't any better attack-wise, so...meh.

    I personally like the runes... gives it that HAMSTER look. However to each there own. I actually didn't realize it wasn't account wide until I grabbed it. Oh well it is a nice comp to have out for one of my toons.
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  • echokazulechokazul Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    At level 30, the panther is okay. It's kind of tankish, and can knock enemies down. Before 30, as you're leveling up, when you actually need it, it kind of sucks, sadly. The Steam Panther actually knocks enemies down from the start, and the level 30 bonus makes it so they're prone twice as long.

    And I'm also one who really wishes the steam panther was account wide. Not because of the price. Many companions that are offered are single character, and cost more (which is why I don't buy them), but simply for the fact that straight out buying multiples is impossible without creating multiple accounts.
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  • knightfalzknightfalz Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    It is to encourage those that already have to HotN panther to get the other one.

    If they had exactly the same utility, those that own the HotN would have little incentive to get the new one.
  • alienslofalienslof Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    It being for just one character was all the incentive I needed not to buy it. :P Had it been account-wide, I'd have snapped it up just because I love big cats.
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  • ravenlock99ravenlock99 Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    knightfalz wrote: »
    It is to encourage those that already have to HotN panther to get the other one.

    If they had exactly the same utility, those that own the HotN would have little incentive to get the new one.

    That is silly. If they released a totally unique companion I would have bought it. But I won't spend more money on something I already bought! I already have a panther that should be the best panther.
  • ljz6ljz6 Member Posts: 74
    edited December 2013
    I'm surprised this thread didn't come up instantly when they released the panther for steam.
    ravenlock99 wrote: »
    That is silly. If they released a totally unique companion I would have bought it. But I won't spend more money on something I already bought! I already have a panther that should be the best panther.

    Why should the Panther in the Hero pack be the best?
  • ravenlock99ravenlock99 Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ljz6 wrote: »
    I'm surprised this thread didn't come up instantly when they released the panther for steam.



    Why should the Panther in the Hero pack be the best?

    Because it's the original panther and should be unique. Millions of other animals/monsters/people they could have used instead of the panther.
  • ljz6ljz6 Member Posts: 74
    edited December 2013
    ravenlock99 wrote: »
    Because it's the original panther and should be unique. Millions of other animals/monsters/people they could have used instead of the panther.

    It is unique, just not as unique as you want it to be. But being unique is not the same thing as being the best.

    As you've said, the Panther from Hero's should be the best. Why?
  • ravenlock99ravenlock99 Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ljz6 wrote: »
    It is unique, just not as unique as you want it to be. But being unique is not the same thing as being the best.

    As you've said, the Panther from Hero's should be the best. Why?

    Yes, what he said. Also, the HotN panther already kind of sucks and me and many others have been trying to get it improved since launch without response. And then suddenly a much improved and better looking version is released on steam for 20 bucks? Come on now...
  • rortierortie Member Posts: 178 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    I bought a feywild starter pack, one time bunch of Zen, and may best Companions are a flamey bird and a purple ghost knight (too expensive to upgrade, but he tanks Mad Dragon happily). So, I don't have a HotN panther, but I don't think it's unfair if a $200 (or chunk thereof) panther is slightly better than a panther that cost a chunk of 20. The question was not is the Steam one better, few seem to argue that one, the question is why? Can't imagine non-staff being able to answer that, so anyone here is just guessing....
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  • ljz6ljz6 Member Posts: 74
    edited December 2013
    When you start approaching the subject of "A 200$ Panther should be better then a 20$ Panther" - that's dipping into a subject that not only I don't want to see around here or even exist in this game, but isn't allowed to be discussed on this forum.
  • indolo238indolo238 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 51
    edited December 2013
    ljz6 wrote: »
    When you start approaching the subject of "A 200$ Panther should be better then a 20$ Panther" - that's dipping into a subject that not only I don't want to see around here or even exist in this game, but isn't allowed to be discussed on this forum.
    Really it's a matter of "Why is the $200 panther worse than most or all of the other companions?"
  • ravenlock99ravenlock99 Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ljz6 wrote: »
    When you start approaching the subject of "A 200$ Panther should be better then a 20$ Panther" - that's dipping into a subject that not only I don't want to see around here or even exist in this game, but isn't allowed to be discussed on this forum.

    That is exactly the subject you were waiting to come up and why I didn't explicitly state it. Your baiting was obvious and no other arguments would appease you.
  • ljz6ljz6 Member Posts: 74
    edited December 2013
    ravenlock99 wrote: »
    That is exactly the subject you were waiting to come up and why I didn't explicitly state it. Your baiting was obvious and no other arguments would appease you.

    Because that's the argument of the thread, just because you pussyfoot around it doesn't mean it's not there. If you're asking why the steam one looks cooler, that's a matter of opinion, is that what you're asking? If not, please tell me exactly what you're asking as you're being very vague.
  • rortierortie Member Posts: 178 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    I don't see why it isn't allowed (to be discussed at least). Didn't know it wasn't. Just to shut me up, in this thread at least, is there a T&C that explicitly prohibits discussing the value of an in-game item?
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  • melodywhrmelodywhr Member Posts: 4,220 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    it isn't the discussion of the "value" of an item that is in question here, but the argument of pay to win which is a violation of rule 3.08:
    Rule 3.08 - No Inappropriate Discussion Types
    . . . . Inappropriate discussion-types include, but are not limited to, the following discussion types: Politics, Religious issues, Abortion debates, drug use, etc. Common sense should dictate what is appropriate or not. Also, "Pay to Win" argument threads are prohibited.

    that cannot be discussed because like the other examples provided in that rule, it is a highly opinionated subject which just leads to disrespect, flame wars and personal attacks. even the title of this thread is a matter of opinion. the value of in game items depends on who you ask and threads like this are usually opened for the intent of complaining or flaming. i can think of one place where you can go to see what a p2w "discussion" thread looks like, but why bother? you might as well endure fingernails across a chalkboard.

    considering the feedback that pwe has already received on the panther companion, this comparison serves no constructive purpose, although i don't think the OP intended it to happen that way. as companion AI seems to be improving, some may change their opinions about the panther soon enough. but there's no reason to continue to beat a dead horse.

    this thread is closed.
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