GF, questiom about armor penetration.

verengard

Hi i have a questions about armpen. Guides say that its best to get ~24% which is the boss cap. But is it 24% overall (dex % + atmpen %) or just 24% from pure armor penetration stat ?

fondlez

24% total from both sources.

verengard

Is the cap really 24% ? When i hit a training dummy with Cleave i deal less damage without the Tide of Iron debuff than with it. I have 21% armpen from stats and 5% from dex - so it should not have ANY effect. Or does Tide of Iron modify something diffrent than the enemy's armor.

fondlez

verengard wrote: »

Is the cap really 24% ? When i hit a training dummy with Cleave i deal less damage without the Tide of Iron debuff than with it. I have 21% armpen from stats and 5% from dex - so it should not have ANY effect. Or does Tide of Iron modify something diffrent than the enemy's armor.

1. Trade of Blade dummies have no mitigation. So, you are not seeing any impact from Resistance Ignored.

2. All spells and effects that debuff mitigation, e.g. from Powers, feats and weapon enhancements, are flat damage increases that can take mitigation below zero. Hence, they are different from and stack with Resistance Ignored (which cannot go below zero mitigation).

dkcandy

Armor Pen - Can reduce a targets mitigation to 0

Debuffs - Can reduce a targets mitigation below 0

Examples:

1 - You have 0 Armor Pen and the target has 20% Damage Reduction. You debuff the target for 15% leaving the target with 5% damage reduction. So the target now reduces all incoming dmg by 5%.

2 - You have 20% Armor Pen and the target has 20% Damage Reduction. You debuff the target for 15%, now leaving the target with 0% from Armor Pen and -15% from debuffs. So now the target takes 15% extra dmg.

3 - You have 20% Armor Pen and the target has 20% Damage Reduction. Your TEAM debuffs the target for 100% combined debuffs. Because you have 20% Armor Pen and reduce the target to 0% damage reduction the debuffs to the target allows you to do 100% extra dmg.