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twstdecho
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Wouldn't it be nice if you could re-skin your mount with a new mount that comes out, similar to transmutation?
Buy an account wide purple mount and then be able to re-skin with other mounts you acquire in game would be a great feature and if you set the price right, they would make much more money versus the current model.
I have to imagine that not many people pay to upgrade a green mount like the new shadow wolf to purple, especially since it's only effective for that one character, not your account, but how many people would pay to re-skin their current account wide purple mount with a new mount model they found in game?
Buy an account wide purple mount and then be able to re-skin with other mounts you acquire in game would be a great feature and if you set the price right, they would make much more money versus the current model.
I have to imagine that not many people pay to upgrade a green mount like the new shadow wolf to purple, especially since it's only effective for that one character, not your account, but how many people would pay to re-skin their current account wide purple mount with a new mount model they found in game?
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Anything would be better than paying the absurd millions it costs to upgrade mounts.
Anyway I like the idea. The shadow wolf does looks cool. If not because i already have a rank 3 mount and the high price i have to pay to train the shadow wolf to rank 3, i might want to use it.
the upgrading costs for a green mount to a purple one are just way too high with 2832000 ads and it's just for one char. I mean I would only do this if it was a big nice flying dragon. Why would I spent so much ads for one mount when I can have for 3500 Zen (~1351000 ads) a purple mount for my whole acc?
that's why I am not even bothering to farm this new event wolf mount since it's only green and I have a purple mount for my main char, though I like the way the wolf mount looks.
3 million ADs would be way beyond me. However, if they let us combine mounts
(transmuting that could be undone) I'd like to buy a cool purple mount and sometimes
put the Shadow Wolf's skin on it.
Once they add a section for mounts like they have for storing companions, I'll
start collecting/buying more of them. Right now I'd have to go to the bank
and swap them each time.
I like the idea, btw.
I'd do that deal in a heart beat (well, months of heartbeats, so I could save up the AD for it XD). Even if it meant eating two bank spaces on all my characters, that'd be worth while. Although, honestly, I'm absolutely content with my rank 1 mounts. Much like unslotting currently is on live (Can't wait for the changes to come for that) I feel no need to shell out money/AD for purples because the price is far from palatable
So hey, maybe if they decide to rework the mount system, they could work this in. Or just work this and the mount skin idea in, in general.
I wouldn't expect any price breaks, though.
I was just in a thread where people were looking for a seperate tab for mount storage. If the plan currently is to sell people a green mount for X, a blue mount for Y, and a purple mount for Z, then what do they charge for skins only?
Instead of someone buying a purple horse, they just buy a skin to put on their existing purple mount.
Instead of buying the upgrade, they just buy the skin and put it on the already upgraded mount.
There could be an increase in volume if they charged a little less for skins, but would it be enough to make up for the loss in mount sales?
It wouldn't be a price break on the mount itself. But on the training. If you buy a rank 2 quality mount from the shop (say a medium warg or medium tiger), then you are already paying $35 for the mount. In my opinion you shouldn't have to pay $53 more dollars worth of AD to upgrade it.
Not debating that upgrade costs seem out of line, but it seems a seperate issue from skins instead of actual mounts.
After sleeping on it, only way that I think skins really work is for special loot/drops.
If they dropped a wolf skin rather than a wolf mount then people could turn their blue or purple horse (or whatever) into a blue or purple wolf.
Those people would have to have paid for the mount upgrade in the first place, so it's not like they are giving away a blue or purple mount.
For purchases, though, if I am paying purple mount prices, why not get an actual mount? What purpose does just getting a skin serve?
If it's merely to save that one inventory spot (for people that have purchased a purple mount in the C-store, for example, and hope to merely change how that single mount looks for each of their characters) then that problem would be solved by Cryptic adding a 'stable' tab to character inventory, and I think that a stable tab is simpler to do than coming up with some variable cost for skins based upon the quality of the mount to have it's appearance altered.
Not really. Because skins would be a way around paying that cost. Getting a rank 3 (the fastest) mount is pretty cheap. The Zen store has one for $25. Many of the better looking mounts (imo) are more expensive but slower. With a 'mount skin' system you cover that $25 mount with the skin of a mount you really liked. Instead of buying the one you wanted -then- paying 53$ or 73$ worth of AD to upgrade the one you wanted.
Now, if you assign a decent cost to re-skin a mount, you are going to have a significantly larger group of people willing to buy that purple mount from the Zen store and then re-skin with another mount they acquired in game.
Heck, they could even add a new category of mount skins in the Zen store (white/green level mount versions of current purple mounts) to capitalize on people who want specific models for each character.
It's both a way to be community friendly AND make more money instead of one or the other.
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I think the point would be to offer unique skins/mounts for sale. Things like the unicorn and whatnot, so people interested in those things still can go buy them, people interested in skinning what they buy could also. I personally like the Shadow Wolf on my level 60 Rogue, it seems to fit her nicely! Though, every other character it seems a little off.. Maybe they should ditch the training stuff (which is absurdly expensive) and make a blank slate idea that you could buy for zen to apply to any mundane ride to make it the fastest, maybe even one for 80% and one for 110% (And not a step up program either.. )
1. a stable of sorts where you can pull the skin you want for your mount. Without that you will just eat up the skin and have to pay out the wazoo to recover it later if you decide you want to go back. This way you would also have a place to store all of your mount inventory without feeling like you are eating up your inventory.
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2. transmute costs get reduced to the point it becomes an impulse purchase. Currently if you make a mistake transmuting something it can cost you over 51k diamonds. if the price were much lower, people could actually afford to play around with different appearances. Same goes for dye costs.
Once I have a Tier 3 Mount every mount purchase afterwards is cosmetic only and Mount Skins are NOT worth 30-40 dollars.
I would pay 10-20 dollars for a mount skin so lets say 20 dollars of the Mount Fee is for the Rank 3 Speed.
Just sell account wide mount speeds for zen.
Sell all "mounts" as skins to apply to your mount slot whenever you wish.
The idea that mounts are individual items just makes inventory clutter and makes me less likely to buy any mounts because in my opinion I should only pay a convenience fee once.
I would think this idea goes hand and hand with storing every mount appearance you have on your account.
Obviously paying 10-20 dollars for a skin that vanishes like in game items would be the worst system in history.
And stable? If mounts are "skins" they wouldn't need a stable or a place to store them.
A simple drop down list of all the mount skins you own would be ideal and should be, ideally, free of charge since you had to pay to get the skin to begin with.
Please don't get me wrong; I think this would be an awesome idea. However, I am a realist (not trying to be a curmudgeon, here) Mount sales-wise it wouldn't be a very good decision, and there's also a huge technical issue to tackle and that requires time and effort, which equal monetary investment on Cryptic's part. This is why I highly recommend no one go holding their breath to see this great idea come to fruition.
I agree with the other point you are making - it would indeed require a rework of the mount system which in turn would require time and money. But, hopefully, they might see it as a profitable investment.
This is my favorite part about sharing ideas...
I like this even better and it addresses some concerns as well. Pay, through the Zen marketplace to up your mount speed and any mount you place in that spot works at the unlocked speed.
Sounds like an easier solution than my original idea, and achieves the same result!