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I would like to sincerely thank the Devs for fixing all the exploits in Karrundax. Now can you please fix the actual bosses mechanics? because it doesn't make sense that the first two bosses are actually harder than the last Dragon boss. A boss mechanic that doesn't involve spamming adds which spam aoe would be much appreciated. People would not exploit if the fight were a tad bit easier on the AOE/ADD spam and actually doable with T2 set gear with random people.
But maybe I lack skills and I am a poor player...but I really find CN and MC much much easier than Karrundax.
But maybe I lack skills and I am a poor player...but I really find CN and MC much much easier than Karrundax.
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The developer mentioned improving the boss mechanics in the upcoming module 2. It's suppose to be released before the end of the year, so be expecting it within the next 3 months.
Here is the link to the interview, http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/09/25/neverwinters-velasquez-on-lockboxes-foundry-and-module-2
The answer I found will be all the way to the bottom of the page. That's where all the info on module 2 is.
Sci-fi author: The Gods We Make, The Gods We Seek, and Ji-min
so there goes the thanks
Shhh I said this the day of/after the patch. lol It's pretty obvious but it's there.
PinkSugar, lvl 60 CW.
Baby Cakes, lvl 60 GWF.
*******, lvl 60 TR.
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There is NO pvp in Neverwinter.
That sounds great.
So when will they fix the issues they make with the next module when they come out with the 3rd?
...ohhhh I forgot about "adds on boss" system (not to mention immune adds in large numbers).
I can still remember why I started playing NWO; because of first gameplay of TR, it was diffrent from any MMO I saw (with few exceptions).
Repairing broken mechanics should be more of priority than exploits in my opinion, because why do people started to exploit in the first place huh?
BTW I though using terrain to your advantage was legit
The devs have said if there's no invisible wall there, it's fair game. In Karru they added some invisible walls. Just not enough.
Sci-fi author: The Gods We Make, The Gods We Seek, and Ji-min
Why would you ever do that to your party?
there were no invisible walls before right?
So instead of rewarding players creativity in using environment, devs just blocked that way of dealing with boss. Not giving that pillar HP so it can be crushed by boss so players would have to change tactic/position but blocked so either people will fight long and boring battle or find another way to "exploit" environment to their advantage
Also, many player still are kicked or not accepted in party if they don't know the way to bug bosses or cheat, and most of the times are GF and GWF just beacuse they are not allowed to play with others.
hahaha, no words for that comment except: standing on spots where bosses can`t hit you is creativity or exploit ? haha
too much words already again for this.
Yea, it's creativity because someone decided to try this out to check if boss can hit him from there and guess what? He couldn't. That of course doesn't mean that you can't be hit with ranged attacks, right? You don't hide in textures to avoid damage, right?
Using boss weak spots (and in that case its his inability to attack someone higher than him) is creativity, otherwise pushing mobs off the ledges is also exploit since mobs can't dodge, right? /sarcasm
or at least get real in your head if you do know about the exploits where nothing gets hit.
you re so funny, i have lots of not allowed words for you.
the words you type can be translate into: it `s too hard for me, please let the exploits stay.
do your best writing stupid things, i won`t read again in this topic ;p
we all know the exploits and shortcuts, which are there for 4 months now.
you should go work for this game and put your head in the sand.
Rage much? Can't discuss anything? No personal point of view?
All you get is bone and you're afraid to ask for meat and your reasoning is on par with child who cry a lot in mall for not getting what he wanted.
Nobody said anything about leaving exploits unfixed, I try to discuss why some of them were fixed that and not other way.
BTW I can't put my head into sand as yours is already there, shoving sand into your ears.
Re-programming a mob to act differently in that situation (and yes I have done game programming at the physics level) can have 1 or all of the following:
1) Collision detection problems because affected area is outside original parameters. (ie. bad splatter damage, players getting knocked through walls and becoming stuck, etc.)
2) Unintentional side effects where mobs aggro through walls.
3) Loot being lost
and the list can go on and on....
Blocking an area requires:
1) less effort (as unintended bugs do not arise)
2) less time to put in, thus can be patched and pushed out relatively quickly
So before you go insulting people... actually learn something about game development, or have a big heaping cup of STFU!
That explanation of exploit is not valid, exploits are bugs/glitches that people use to their advantage.
With that fix devs officaly stated that it was exploit.
Also:
1) Highly unlikely (if pillar would just disappear after getting enough damage players would just fall down)
2) If there would be any mobs behind any of walls then probably it could happen (then again it shouldn't as there was a wall between player and mob)
3) How loot would be lost if pillar were to be damaged? Boss would have to jump inside a wall or down the lava lake
I assume you didn't fully understand me as your points indicate that I wanted to change boss and give him ability to jump on that pillar or target players on that pillar (which in that case it actually could create scenarios pointed by you).
I simply suggested to change pillar from object to live object (like crystals in spellplague) without changing its model, textures and collision effects then give boss script to target pillar if player is near its position (it actually gives me some ideas on that boss fight but nvm) with exception if he's attacked (so someone would have to aggro boss to prevent from destroying pillar).
Nonetheless I agree on 2 points about blocking that area but that doesn't mean it is done well.
BTW I did not insult anyone who didn't deserve it and I know "something" about game development, I faced problems of programming AI and unwated effects that might appear when coded poorly.
Sooo... you can have my cup of that stfu I prefer hot tea.
:rolleyes:
It all starts when someone states diffrent opinion than others and he becomes public enemy no. 1 and everyone start to look at you as worst of the worst, just because you have diffrent opinion on presented situation (often taking that opinion out of context).
People keep forgetting that coin has 2 sides.
A cookie for whoever can find this article.
Taking a break from Neverwinter indefinitely...
Because some of us play in the world of elite players where TR are basically worthless in dungeons. Not one TR is going to out dps myself or our main GF tank @Dut01 in any dungeon. Their DPS is not on par and they have no defense.
CW on the other hand does do great damage, however most of the ones that do high DPS are also leading the way in deaths taken. GWF/GF can still put out solid DPS, but have way higher survivability.
If you want to do a pecking order on classes played to their best of ability on DPS it would go like this:
1. CW
2. GWF
3. GF
4. TR
If you want to base it on survivability (being able to take hits/avoid deaths and dps at the same time), you have this:
1. GWF
2. GF
3. CW
4. TR
How is GWF worthless? The best GWF/GF are more than valuable for PVE content.
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Sorry to hear that in your world of Elite Players, you are unable to measure correctly the dps of a TR and correctly compare it to the DPS of other classes. Let me clarify that for you a bit. TR is a single target class, if you measure the damage done in a dungeon of the TR compared to a CW or a GWF, of course at equal gear they would have more dps because the dungeons are filled with adds and what not.
In addition, claiming that a TR has no defense is basically showing your ignorance of the class. TR has probably some of the most OP defense in the game...it's called stealth.
They already made gear from these dungeons bop so I don't understand the need for these developers to further dumb down their games by making it impossible for players to think about how they'll proceed against a boss creature instead of using a standardized dance system or one that's extremely dumbed down where you just stand in one place and AOE when mobs come out. And unfortunately that's the type of combat I'm seeing in this game. It's already bad enough that EVERY spell and skill use holds you in place even the cantrips!
I don't know about others, but I think beating a boss is fun and challenging if you do it the way it's intended, if I kill him in a palce where he doesn't fight back, even if I kill him, where's the fun?
That being said, some of the bosses can be hard to solo sometimes XD
There are many examples in games where hiding behind an object to block a specific attack being cast is intended, or picking up shields or..... But similarly, in other games where terrain advantage can be legitimately used, there is usually a line drawn at attacking through gaps/graphical glitches in doors/walls/terrain or using objects as a shield that completely break the pathing of enemies.
Whether a particular use of terrain is an exploit is easily answered by the player. Am I supposed to be able to do this? Clever and exploiting are not necessarily the same but they're not always different either. As a player, you know when you're exploiting and when you're not, if you are honest with yourself.....but remember, the Dev decides and he/she is a vengeful Dev. XD