People also buy ciggrates. It doesn't make it good for them. I'm shamed by people dropping so much money on a free to play game..
Ashamed that people support the developers of a game they like to play?
Computer programmers and 3d animators have families, and need food. If people don't give them money for the games they make, then they go do something else for money instead, instead of making games.
When I was pretty new I got an inferno nightmare on beholder AH for 600k, assuming it was an excellent deal (which it was). Had I known that Zen mounts were account-wide I would've sold it and transferred the profit to zen and gotten the clydesdale. There is obviously no need to spend 40$ on a fast mount, I had an opportunity there to get one I'd never have to worry about again for just IG money (no where near 40$ worth).
Of course I just bought the clydesdale later and kept the nightmare I foolishly bound
actually you can play this game with the 50% speed mount that you can purchase for 2 gold ingame without a lot of a hazzle. unlike other games your quest path is done in about a week, the main thing you then do is basically dungeoneering and here you don't need a horse (only in mc). while you have lots of over terrain stuff to do in other mmos in neverwinter there is basically nothing once you reached 60. no open world pvp were fast mounts would come handy, no multi-map quest paths, events that spread over several maps or go out and gather crafting materials. most of the time in this game i sit with my char in protector's enclave waiting for a queue to pop up.
spending lots of money on mounts is just a vanity factor in this game. the real benefit of being faster is minimal (and the little uplift in not being dismounted while being hit also).
The mounts are high but everything on Neverwinter seems pricey in comparison to the cost of items in other Cryptic games. You can buy a pack of 3 ships on STO for what just one mount costs on NWO, you can customize those ships as well. But I believe the prices reflect that this is a new game and to keep it going and expand it they need the cash. Also since there's no subs for this game and its totally free to play may also be a factor in the prices. And as others have pointed out the zen mounts are a vanity item, they're not needed as you buy a mount for gold that will serve you just as well.
I'm more concerned about the high price of AD that it costs to upgrade your hirelings.
Because the $40 is just a cosmetic improvement over the $25 basic Rank 3 mount. You are only paying extra for cosmetic look.
That isn't the "why" I was talking about. The same thing could have been said about the Howler. It was only a cosmetic upgrade over the other T3 mounts. But they felt the need to lower its price while telling us it was because they were listening to player feedback. What I don't get is that they basically said that the mounts were to high, lowered their prices. Why then did they turn around and add a new one for the old higher price.
Again, I don't have a problem with $40 mounts. I bought the howler at its old price. But it does worry me *slightly* that they can't seem to stick with any kind of pattern with this.
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fusedmassMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 252Bounty Hunter
I don't see what the OP problem is? if he wants a fast mount but is unwilling to spend 40 dollars then why not do what I did and just buy a Nightmare horse or whatever it's called , it is 110% speed and that's all I care about when all is said and done.
I even saw one of the new Stag mounts in the Beholder AH a few days ago for a little over 700k AD ( at which point I kicked myself since I bought my nightmare for 850k or so lol )
I have an epic spider mount. That is very fast. it's not about me. I'm covered. It's about selecting certain items for account bound. Yet companions you have to rebuy, the same with bags. It's system is designed to make you spend money. Yes I know its free to play.
You are at a massive disadvantage in combat, when your mount is slower then the rest. The only way to redemny that problem is BUYING that. This is about a pattern of business arragnments thats frankly disturbing and leaves me wonder what they plan on in the future.
I don't know, the 40$ mount is a luxury item, it's not needed at all for the game, it's like complaining that a ferrari is too expensive. Most people who buy it buy it because they can and because it shows their status. To me this 40$ luxury mount is the same, just for those who want to show their status and that they can spend 40$ on a mount.
I have an epic spider mount. That is very fast. it's not about me. I'm covered. It's about selecting certain items for account bound. Yet companions you have to rebuy, the same with bags. It's system is designed to make you spend money. Yes I know its free to play.
You are at a massive disadvantage in combat, when your mount is slower then the rest. The only way to redemny that problem is BUYING that. This is about a pattern of business arragnments thats frankly disturbing and leaves me wonder what they plan on in the future.
I purchased a 110% mount for all characters, 4 more character slots, ioun stone, fashion clothes and dye's, and at least 8 respec tokens all without spending a single penny on zen. I don't need bag's, bank space, "for looks" companions, or any of the 20 other mounts they've come out with since then so I don't buy them.
For those of you that do purchase those extra items b/c you like them, that's awesome! Thank you for supporting this game so that we can all continue to play. I have put some money in as of recently to get some higher end enchants, so I'm not a total free loader =P
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You do realize that it is ppl who spend real money in f2p games that keep those games free?
Ouch! You have wounded my faith in humanity! I have to point out though that we are not talking about some public broadcasting fundraiser here. The developers did not make this game because it should have been made, because people needed it. They are not providing a service and asking for donation to keep it doing good for the community.
The reality is the exact opposite of your statement; it is free so that people will come spend lots of money on it. If it did not make money, the company would not be forced to start charging a monthly fee. They would shut it down and open up another cheap chicken kiosk game of some other variety to snag money from kids and their parents.
But it’s this brand of sentiment that gives companies like Cryptic and PWE bulletproof indemnity for actions better suited to street-side conmen with their attendant queen of spades.
“Well they have to make money.”
No. They have to earn money. And they should earn it by making a product that is worth the time, attention and money spent on it. Don’t pay for a substandard product, it only allows them to peddle more valueless products without competition.
If you buy a pretend pony for 40$ don’t complain when Cryptic tells you that the class that was “almost finished” at beta launch will be out sometime in the future…maybe. You just told them you would buy nothing for any price. Don’t be mad at them if they believe you.
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baleriondrogonMember, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 53
edited September 2013
For me it was a better deal to just get the packs instead of one mount. The price is expensive but it's not like you need those special mounts. See this all the time on the forums, are things in the shop expensive? YES! 100 threads later... it will be the same but you don't have to spend your money.
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Nickle and dimming customers. 40 for a mount. I made a point and seems people missed it. No I'm not dumb pointing out the overpriced item. For a mount.
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The price still HIGH.
You're missing my point. Its 40 dollar mount.
Why buy the $40 mount when you can buy the $25 mount that has the same movement speed and is account wide. 2500 Zen at 340 AD is only 850k AD.
Whenever I see this threads I can only shake my head. What many tend not to understand is that value is subjective. If someone is willing to pay the price, it is considered valuable. If noone will pay then the OP could have a point of there being no value.
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sasheriaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 1Arc User
Whenever I see this threads I can only shake my head. What many tend not to understand is that value is subjective. If someone is willing to pay the price, it is considered valuable. If noone will pay then the OP could have a point of there being no value.
That is true. I usually go with Packs (I got them all) why? cause most of the items (except enchants and bags) are ACCOUNT wide. my pets.. account wide. my mounts? account wide I get more bang for my bucks.
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Ashamed that people support the developers of a game they like to play?
Computer programmers and 3d animators have families, and need food. If people don't give them money for the games they make, then they go do something else for money instead, instead of making games.
F2P is a business model, not a charity.
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Of course I just bought the clydesdale later and kept the nightmare I foolishly bound
spending lots of money on mounts is just a vanity factor in this game. the real benefit of being faster is minimal (and the little uplift in not being dismounted while being hit also).
I'm more concerned about the high price of AD that it costs to upgrade your hirelings.
That isn't the "why" I was talking about. The same thing could have been said about the Howler. It was only a cosmetic upgrade over the other T3 mounts. But they felt the need to lower its price while telling us it was because they were listening to player feedback. What I don't get is that they basically said that the mounts were to high, lowered their prices. Why then did they turn around and add a new one for the old higher price.
Again, I don't have a problem with $40 mounts. I bought the howler at its old price. But it does worry me *slightly* that they can't seem to stick with any kind of pattern with this.
I have an epic spider mount. That is very fast. it's not about me. I'm covered. It's about selecting certain items for account bound. Yet companions you have to rebuy, the same with bags. It's system is designed to make you spend money. Yes I know its free to play.
You are at a massive disadvantage in combat, when your mount is slower then the rest. The only way to redemny that problem is BUYING that. This is about a pattern of business arragnments thats frankly disturbing and leaves me wonder what they plan on in the future.
I purchased a 110% mount for all characters, 4 more character slots, ioun stone, fashion clothes and dye's, and at least 8 respec tokens all without spending a single penny on zen. I don't need bag's, bank space, "for looks" companions, or any of the 20 other mounts they've come out with since then so I don't buy them.
For those of you that do purchase those extra items b/c you like them, that's awesome! Thank you for supporting this game so that we can all continue to play. I have put some money in as of recently to get some higher end enchants, so I'm not a total free loader =P
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
Ouch! You have wounded my faith in humanity! I have to point out though that we are not talking about some public broadcasting fundraiser here. The developers did not make this game because it should have been made, because people needed it. They are not providing a service and asking for donation to keep it doing good for the community.
The reality is the exact opposite of your statement; it is free so that people will come spend lots of money on it. If it did not make money, the company would not be forced to start charging a monthly fee. They would shut it down and open up another cheap chicken kiosk game of some other variety to snag money from kids and their parents.
But it’s this brand of sentiment that gives companies like Cryptic and PWE bulletproof indemnity for actions better suited to street-side conmen with their attendant queen of spades.
“Well they have to make money.”
No. They have to earn money. And they should earn it by making a product that is worth the time, attention and money spent on it. Don’t pay for a substandard product, it only allows them to peddle more valueless products without competition.
If you buy a pretend pony for 40$ don’t complain when Cryptic tells you that the class that was “almost finished” at beta launch will be out sometime in the future…maybe. You just told them you would buy nothing for any price. Don’t be mad at them if they believe you.
Why buy the $40 mount when you can buy the $25 mount that has the same movement speed and is account wide. 2500 Zen at 340 AD is only 850k AD.
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That is true. I usually go with Packs (I got them all) why? cause most of the items (except enchants and bags) are ACCOUNT wide. my pets.. account wide. my mounts? account wide
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