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Weapon/artificer crafting. What's the point?
maisaan
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From what I understand, you have to be lvl 20 in those crafts, get epic equipment to craft a bop weapon and everything else you can craft no one is going to buy anyway.
I'm wondering if this is the future for crafting in NW?
With this, your forcing people to craft a profession they didn't want to do and it's not good for the community either.
We have a member that almost only play NW because he like to craft for the guild, today he told me (after considering it a couple of days) that he would probable stop playing.
I feel forced to take up a crafting (I don't like crafting) if I want the Fomorian Fabled weapon.
If I don't want to craft it, there is no reason for me to do Malaborg or Sharandar at all.
I like to have goals when I play a game, but using my few crafting slots for a craft that is useless after one craft, is not a goal I aim for.
I'm wondering if this is the future for crafting in NW?
With this, your forcing people to craft a profession they didn't want to do and it's not good for the community either.
We have a member that almost only play NW because he like to craft for the guild, today he told me (after considering it a couple of days) that he would probable stop playing.
I feel forced to take up a crafting (I don't like crafting) if I want the Fomorian Fabled weapon.
If I don't want to craft it, there is no reason for me to do Malaborg or Sharandar at all.
I like to have goals when I play a game, but using my few crafting slots for a craft that is useless after one craft, is not a goal I aim for.
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If its the latter, thats okay to me.
But the way it is now is a bit ridiculous for the end crafter. The end crafter essentially wouldnt have no reason to craft or keep crafting.
Crafting in Neverwinter gives you nothing. The items are <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, nowadays blue items drop so often that anything you can craft is weaker anyway (besides shirts and pants). There is not even some kind of commission crafting system where you can craft bound items directly into the backpack of someone else while he pays you for it (similar to trading items). There are no receipes one can find over the world, from monster drops or that can be bought somewhere ingame or special receipes to buy for events. There is a set of receipes every crafter has and that's it.
Also the mechanic of craftig prerequisites is just old-fashioned. They could just make the final receipe and make it a 5 hour craft then - in the end it is the same anyway. Everything you craft as a prerequiste is a time-sink on the way to the final product.
In other games crafting really was useful. Making potions, food and drinks, arrows... for the guild or the high end spells or very good gear for endgame players. With that I earned lots of ingame currency in other games. In Neverwinter potions drop so often that every Alchemist must be dumb to craft hours to make one health potion or whatever for selling it.
The whole crafting needs to be redone. The current state is just plain boring and pointless. Like PVP it looks more like some kind of excuse that it is also in the game... because other games have that, too, so that had to bring something.
Well you can sell the fragments you would have needed to craft it for pretty high amounts of AD. So at least there is that.
But in general I agree, this was a bad idea.
Especially if the next Module brings a better weapon again that can be aquired without crafting. You'll look back at the 3M AD minimum you spent on this one (for assets) and I doubt many people will say it has been worth it.
A guild means:
- Cooperation in epic dungeons
- When doing these dungeons and the screw up loot system choses the same lucky player time after time; willing to give the Malabog's Fragment free to guild mates (or change the loot system to leader decides or free loot)
- Sharing profession assets
- Instead of selling items on the AH, put them in the guild for sharing first; if you do so, others will do the same
- Progress is not made alone, unless you have deep pockets and spend tons of Zen, progress is made as a team
- So many people complaining about queus for epic dungeons; what about you join a guild where is a team to do the dungeons?
- Read all above things, put them into practice and many complains will just vanish from the forums
- After all above, this game will look way more attractive to new players!
I spend a reasonable amount of Zen to get some assets, also spending AD on the AH for other assets. I put them all up for sharing in the guild. When people notice they need to spend halve or more than halve less on the AH they notice they save up AD. That either will lead to spending less time in AD-benefit events, like foundry, dungeons etc. and will lead to more people sharing what they got and invest more time in guild events.
Guild cooperation leads to satisfaction, solo playing leads to boredness.
:cool:
But there are so many things that actively discourage guild cooperation - one example being BoP crafted items - it is somewhat pointless to have a designated guild crater that can make items like reinforced gauntlets.
:cool:
I think the developers should focus on the "reinforced" items, where you can upgrade an existing item. I believe if they expanded this to where you can upgrade all of your items, not just your bracers, then that would make it viable again. Also since most epic sets re now bind on pickup, they should remove the auto bind on pickup that reinforcing does to items so that the crafter can purchase existing, much rarer, bind on equip purple items that dropped off bosses and improve those for resale. In order to invest time and money into a craft, it needs to be something that will be profitable and/or a way for an individual player to upgrade their own gear. Making something in between a t1 and t2 weapon, armor, whatever just isn't motivation to do it as it just isn't that hard as it is easier to run a dungeon and farm your drop vs. purchasing from a crafter.
In regards to alchemy, the potions made need to be unique. Isn't there one that restores AP? If so that is good. But making things that you can buy in the store for gold is a waste. I would want a potion that heals for more, or gives a larger buff than what you can buy, or some other creative buffs that there currently are not potions for such as movement, or bonuses similar to what feats provide (increase % dmg, stealth lasts longer, cooldowns on encounters decreased, etc).
I too would like to upgrade equipment or make truly unique equipment. (something along the Diablo III crafting would be cool, in the manner of the unique items it creates.
There are some Distilled Heals that give hp and regen effect. But the cost (time and ingredients) to craft them is far too great to sell for any profit. And, really not worth it for personal consumption.
Bring back the Boots of the Gargoyle! -NWN-
The BoP change screwed up this game for good... Everyone is complaining about it, and if it goes on and they keep ignoring us, everyone will leave soon for better games...
weapons was to make it a grind for most people to give you a reason
to log in every day (all the evidence points that way).
Oh yea, let me give more proof: Do the math on how many CN clears you need
in order to buy the new armor set (BTW if you are planning to do that, hit it
during the DD event since the chest drops more tokens).
The grind with the new summer event going on now I found actually fun for a day
or 2. At least it didn't force me to do it.
I suppose everyone's experiences are different but I'm of the opinion that Guilds suck dragon d@ng more often than not. I'm happy that this game is as solo friendly as it is.
I know some crafters atm are selling their rare and epic weapon/artificer stuff, because they also predict that the price will go drastic down when these weapons are old news.