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Why are CW's less squishy then GFs?
bacontea
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Seriously, why am i doing more damage to a GF with a 12k gs with high Def, then a cw?
I didnt know that cloth was stronger then plate? Must be some kind of plate cloth strengthen with some fairy powder with a + over 9000 thread with a super ultra spray paint with a cherry on top.
CW's seems to be a cross with gwf/gf/rogue. Perhaps it was crypts idea to make cw the dominate class in nw, i mean they dodge out of everything like a rogue, even the kitchen sink, take less damage then a tank, and knock you down and cc you non stop.
I didnt know that cloth was stronger then plate? Must be some kind of plate cloth strengthen with some fairy powder with a + over 9000 thread with a super ultra spray paint with a cherry on top.
CW's seems to be a cross with gwf/gf/rogue. Perhaps it was crypts idea to make cw the dominate class in nw, i mean they dodge out of everything like a rogue, even the kitchen sink, take less damage then a tank, and knock you down and cc you non stop.
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You ain't seen nothing yet. Wait till Dual Wielding Rangers debut.
I am going to assume this is a joke or troll thread as CW's usually get ohko'd or at very most 2-shotted. You are NOT doing more dmg to a GF than to a CW.
CW's are definitely NOT the most OP class and this team composition for PVP is terrible.....I'm going to guess you guys are new players and have absolutely no idea or only PVP'd once or twice.
In pugs, many GF's choose burst damage because they are going for pvp titles.
In addition, a GF loses against other melee since unlike other melee clases, they cannot escape and are always the target of focussed damage due to positioning. If they do not kill or did not go all out for survival builds, they die.
But the comparison to CW's is just silly. A CW has to stand still to cast as well as become extremely nervous in melee range due to the risk of being one-shot or two-shot (you cannot compare 20% Damage Resistance of a "tanky" CW to 40% of a GF plus all their Deflection). So, you can cause them to easily use up their dodges and then they are toast.
In premades vs premades, CW's are one of the worst classes to bring since they are so easy to focus down. Before Feywild, it was quite common not to bring any to Domination since the whole point of a match is to capture and hold points not to farm kills because no one has the brains not to focus you down...
Finally, the perfect counter to CW's are not GF's but TRs (particularly ItC-Impact shot builds) - Rock, Paper, Scissors!
L2P your class please.
I'm going to assume you never pvpd in nw yet, as i am geared pretty well.
Learn the pvp mechanics plz
You see theres this button cw's press, the "shift" key and it pretty much dodges everything, you could have a nuke go off and itll dodge it.
Um, ya you can compare, when you are fighting them over and over again and getting pretty much the same results.
Lmao GF more squishy than CW ,lmao really
I'm GWF and i been killed easily by stupid GF Knock down,back,down and make high damage with this easy movies he take more than half my heath e.e and when i try to hit him while i use unstoppable for sure he use stupid shield to tank damage e,e
While CW on other hand ,He got 3 dodge and 1 knock back in less case they don't eat more than my half heath before using unstoppable and they got way less damage res than GF for sure ,lmao again =.=
GF shoudl get really really way nerf
lol 1st time in my life hear that lol GF can tank more than 3 ppl same time while alot of Block and knock downs and high DPS with timeless set and i can dodge 3 times while rogue can hide and use skill give him immune from dmg and effects and also 1 shot ppl and to GWF they do stun and knock downs and they have unstoppable also high speed bro u rly must research that
What I find annoying is where I hit a player which from my screen you can actually see that they were hit but they still manage to dodge it just after... Yet when I try it, it's not nearly as forgiving. I suppose having a ping of 180ish (I'm from the UK) doesn't help.
So lets sum it up - some GF whine about them being squishy and from your posts above:
1) you think nobody stacks penetration in pvp (or nobody use plaguefire / HV set)
2) you(or he) have no idea how to block
3) you cant hit your encounters and waste it right away on first dodge
Its not a problem to crit for 14k with Lunging Strike OR not sacrifice any surviability and get just as hard hiting full HP tene build.
There are a number of players that would disagree with you on this point.
Man he don't think about timeless T2 gear for GF with tank build =.=
Op Dps with Tank
@TS
Stop PVPng using GWF and trying to kill a cw and gf.
You should go to Midsummer (whatever) and pick flowers for the pig companion where your class is at best on this new patch.
/sarcasm off.
If you have a tank build then you don't have Reckless Attacker, which means you have lost half your Power (the key damage stat for a GF) plus 5% damage bonus plus 15% Cleave damage bonus. By comparison, 5% Crit from 4pc set bonus of Timeless does almost nothing for you in that situation.
Try getting Head Hunter title without being Conq. Specced, I dare you!
I could probably build a protector that couldn't be killed in PVP.......
I may not get many kills, but I sure won't be dying either.
Also he mentioned Timeless.... that isn't the only option out there either..... Use your imagination.
I would be intreasted to know how you build it.
Coz i've tried moast of the builds and gear combination for just this. And they all are pretty terrible. GWF is a much better choise for this since 1: Unstoppeble works from all angles and last 4 times aslong as the guard 2: They are alot more mobile, and mobillity is what keep people alive in this pvp. Look at all the complaints about TR's and CW being hard to kill. GF that build for survival are basicly a bunker/anchor with zero mobillity and really crappy dmg output.
I'm leveling a new toon for this. After I'm done testing at 60 and respecing if necessary I'll post.
CW are one of the squishiest classes if not the squishies in PVP.