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Re: Calling all guild leaders- Lets get something changed!!! "Coalescant Ward"

snackassnackas Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 8 Arc User
edited August 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Hello, let me introduce myself. I currently run LOTD "Lords Of The Dead" for our casual game chapter. Since closed beta I have been very active in NW, and have enjoyed much of the aspects of the game, but that is not why I am posting this today.

I would like to get every Guild leader, and their communities to get a request for change for an end game item, "The Coalescant Ward" As you all know this one item is affecting the game in a huge way, as they only come from 2 sources. 1. Praying for 7 days, and a loot drop from a lock box.


I would like these to drop from a Dungeon Delve box as well, and the only way this might have a chance of happening is if everyone whom manages a community gets with the program. The economy on every server is terrible, especially with the changes they just implemented. Lets get together and do something good for all of us.

If your a leader of a community, or officer please post up I would like to get as many communities on this as possible.

Please friend me, Ill accept and lets get to discussing this.

Thank's,

LOTD-GM
www.lotd.org
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  • whitewolf2k3whitewolf2k3 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    snackas wrote: »
    Hello, let me introduce myself. I currently run LOTD "Lords Of The Dead" for our casual game chapter. Since closed beta I have been very active in NW, and have enjoyed much of the aspects of the game, but that is not why I am posting this today.

    I would like to get every Guild leader, and their communities to get a petition-or change for an end game item, "The Coalescant Ward" As you all know this one item is affecting the game in a huge way, as they only come from 2 sources. 1. Praying for 7 days, and a loot drop from a lock box.


    I would like these to drop from a Dungeon Delve box as well, and the only way this might have a chance of happening is if everyone whom manages a community gets with the program. The economy on every server is terrible, especially with the changes they just implemented. Lets get together and do something good for all of us. IF I sound like a jack ***...not my intention :)

    If your a leader of a community, or officer please post up I would like to get as many communities on this as possible.

    Please friend me, Ill accept and lets get to discussing this.

    Thank's,

    LOTD-GM
    www.lotd.org
    Snack @snackas

    Valid request, I guess? However, I personally could give two craps about the Ward drops. How about...as a GM for my guild...being able to pool AD to buy bank slots? Not be required to use Auction House as a tool to pass AD to each other (at a loss by the way). SO in short, better drops will always be a big want, but come on....as GM for your guild i'm sure there are more important things to ask for.
  • parp12parp12 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    So if I'm not a guild leader my opinion doesn't count? I veto this concept.

    edit: okay I'm a bit slow, you mean to get their members to voice an opinion. As long as you're not excluding people who aren't guilded from having an opinion. Also the problem with petitions is that you're only noting the view of people who agree with you. You'd be better off polling people first.
  • aaronjfaaronjf Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    snackas wrote: »
    I would like these to drop from a Dungeon Delve box as well, and the only way this might have a chance of happening is if everyone whom manages a community gets with the program. The economy on every server is terrible, especially with the changes they just implemented. Lets get together and do something good for all of us.
    LOTD-GM
    www.lotd.org
    Snack @snackas
    Shut, why stop at c wards? I would like rank 7s, 8s, 9's or 10's along w/ lesser or even normal enchants to drop out of the delve boxes.
    Fact of the matter is, c wards are already too common. That is why they are listed for 1000 zen on the store but sell for 95-100k ad on the ah typically. It isn't hard to create an army of toons, get them to lvl whatever and start to pray..
    I get what you are asking, but like whitewolf led on to, there are many better options than increasing c ward availability (which is already extremely easy to come by)..
  • dkcandydkcandy Member Posts: 1,555 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    parp12 wrote: »
    So if I'm not a guild leader my opinion doesn't count? I veto this concept.

    How about Bug Fixes > Dungeon Loot Tables fixed so Epics Drop again > New Paragons > New PvP Content > etc...

    Coal Wards should NEVER be dropped loot as right now enchants are the BiS gear in the game and if it was "EASY" to get T10/Perfect Enchants there would be no carrot to chase. (Just ask the players that have spent $1000's on their characters to get that BiS gear and haven't logged into to play Mod 1.) ;)
  • parp12parp12 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    dkcandy wrote: »
    How about Bug Fixes > Dungeon Loot Tables fixed so Epics Drop again > New Paragons > New PvP Content > etc...
    I assume you meant to quote someone else.
  • zalcszalcs Banned Users Posts: 345 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    aaronjf wrote: »
    Shut, why stop at c wards? I would like rank 7s, 8s, 9's or 10's along w/ lesser or even normal enchants to drop out of the delve boxes.
    Fact of the matter is, c wards are already too common. That is why they are listed for 1000 zen on the store but sell for 95-100k ad on the ah typically. It isn't hard to create an army of toons, get them to lvl whatever and start to pray..
    I get what you are asking, but like whitewolf led on to, there are many better options than increasing c ward availability (which is already extremely easy to come by)..

    Totally in favor of the weapon/armor enchants dropping from dd chests. Enchantments are the most p2w aspect of the game atm.
  • slayorianslayorian Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Coal wards will probably drop in price as time goes on. Right now they are serving to redistribute some wealth and eat up some AD via the 10% AH cut. The prices have only been high because of exploiters having too much AD and thus being able to afford absurd prices. The thing is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

    Right now, we have people who exploited 100s of nightmare mounts, so they have millions upon millions of AD. Because of this, prices on things such as vorpal shards and coal wards will be going up for a while. A hundred thousand AD is nothing to someone with 50 nightmare mounts ready to sell. Since the devs didn't roll the servers back 15 min when this happened, we'll have to wait quite a while for the economy to recovery from this. But it will happen. (assuming no new super exploit like this pops in beforehand)
  • bpskibbenheimsbpskibbenheims Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 210 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    slayorian wrote: »
    Coal wards will probably drop in price as time goes on. Right now they are serving to redistribute some wealth and eat up some AD via the 10% AH cut. The prices have only been high because of exploiters having too much AD and thus being able to afford absurd prices. The thing is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

    Right now, we have people who exploited 100s of nightmare mounts, so they have millions upon millions of AD. Because of this, prices on things such as vorpal shards and coal wards will be going up for a while. A hundred thousand AD is nothing to someone with 50 nightmare mounts ready to sell. Since the devs didn't roll the servers back 15 min when this happened, we'll have to wait quite a while for the economy to recovery from this. But it will happen. (assuming no new super exploit like this pops in beforehand)

    It doesn't really work this way. Those people have a lot of mounts not necessarily money, yet. The value of the money is not effected by the number of mounts on the market, but rather the amount of money in circulation. Mounts don't effect this. Two things can happen. The people holding the mounts flood the market with them thus lowering the value of the mounts. Or the people holding the mounts keep holding them and only sell them here and there to keep the value high. They don't amass economy breaking riches in this manner due to the fact their sales are slowed considerably. They also run the risk of the value still dropping in. The future and thus they lose money. It pretty much has everything to do with the value of the mounts not the value of the currency thus not the value of other items the currency can be used to buy.

    The current rise in the cost of things on the AH is tied more closely to the fact that for every Feywild pack they sell 600k ad is added to the economy. Same goes for the other packs.
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  • slayorianslayorian Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    It doesn't really work this way. Those people have a lot of mounts not necessarily money, yet. The value of the money is not effected by the number of mounts on the market, but rather the amount of money in circulation. Mounts don't effect this. Two things can happen. The people holding the mounts flood the market with them thus lowering the value of the mounts. Or the people holding the mounts keep holding them and only sell them here and there to keep the value high. They don't amass economy breaking riches in this manner due to the fact their sales are slowed considerably. They also run the risk of the value still dropping in. The future and thus they lose money. It pretty much has everything to do with the value of the mounts not the value of the currency thus not the value of other items the currency can be used to buy.

    The current rise in the cost of things on the AH is tied more closely to the fact that for every Feywild pack they sell 600k ad is added to the economy. Same goes for the other packs.

    The packs granting extra AD definitely is a factor and worth calling out. However, mounts are an excellent vehicle of transferring AD to those exploiters. I'm sure they are slowly selling them in order to maintain higher value. However, I know if I were selling a few every other day, I would be buying up shards and coal wards like crazy to make all of the greater/perfect enchants I want and still have millions left over at the end of the week.
  • jarlsburgjarlsburg Member Posts: 222 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    Coal wards no longer drop from lockboxes so this is probably a losing battle. You can still get them from the old boxes, but they are not in the Fey lockboxes. I pretty much believe everything they change is centered around forcing players to spend cash and I think they are trying to limit the ways we can get coal wards to drive the price up (just like BOP equipment). I wouldn't be surprised if they suddenly stopped dropping as often from the prayer boxes. They could easily change the drop rate anytime they wanted to. Of course this is just my opinion, but it is weird that they are not included in the new boxes. Actually, not much is really in the new boxes. They are a pretty bad investment now (always were bad, now they are horrible).
  • sylvialynnsylvialynn Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    You missed the 3rd way to aquire them. 200 bars at the trader.
  • somedogesomedoge Member Posts: 54
    edited August 2013
    How is this not locked for petitioning?
  • parp12parp12 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    somedoge wrote: »
    How is this not locked for petitioning?

    Is that against the RoC? I can't see any reference to it. Also it's not a petition but talking about a potential petition, which isn't petitioning.
  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I'd like to see lower level weapon and armor enchants at least given a chance to combine.

    It at least gives people access to enchanting their weapons and armor at lower levels of wealth, versus looking at the cost and simply passing.

    Maybe give shards 25% chance to form a lesser -> 20% -> normal -> 10% -> greater -> 1% -> perfect.
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  • leefordleeford Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 157 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    Don't you guys want at least one thing that isn't on a "speed run fast track"?
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