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High Prophet Set Bonus: Moar Boots!

whistlingdixiewhistlingdixie Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited August 2013 in The Temple
So how long until this gets nerfed, now that they boots are accessible. I just got them today on my second DD run post-patch. And seriously. It's just 30% extra damage. No tricks, no bugs, no deceptive tooltips. It was very easy for both me and other people to tell the difference just casually. I lost about 1000 gearscore from a 2/2 T2 set, but in reality, it turned out to be a negligible difference in effective stats. (1% crit, some power... woo, who cares.)

It sounded too good to be true when I first read the bonus, and thought surely it meant something else. But then I found out it was very difficult to get. So it made sense, somehow. But now that it's not nigh-impossible to get the set, I fully expect a big nerf.

If you were thinking about getting it, take my advice: get it. Yes, it's absolutely worth giving up T2. (Unless you need the new MH proc on every tick "feature" of the new AS and FF.)
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  • redeclipzeredeclipze Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    You're quite late to the party...
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  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    So how long until this gets nerfed, now that they boots are accessible.

    The set, including the Bound boots (the previously only Bound set item in the game), have been accessible ever since the game was in beta. So, this is only new to you...

    Also, not many Clerics either want to invest in a dps set or if they do prefer either to use their existing general purpose set or invest in the new arp set with more overall stats (not saying this is optimum ofc, just average player preference).

    Besides, unlike CW's High Vizier set which nominally provides the same effect, High Prophet set cannot be bugged to provide infinite mitigation reduction...

    If devs were ever going to change the set, then they would have months ago and they would likely have done the same to High Vizier and any other mitigation reduction sets.

    Finally, at the end of the day, what would you rather have: a CW with or without HV plus their control or a "dps cleric" (lol in Feywild) with High Prophet? It is not even a choice in most groups and even if the choice were there, the answer is obvious...
  • redeclipzeredeclipze Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    fondlez wrote: »
    The set, including the Bound boots (the previously only Bound set item in the game), have been accessible ever since the game was in beta. So, this is only new to you...

    Also, not many Clerics either want to invest in a dps set or if they do prefer either to use their existing general purpose set or invest in the new arp set with more overall stats (not saying this is optimum ofc, just average player preference).

    Besides, unlike CW's High Vizier set which nominally provides the same effect, High Prophet set cannot be bugged to provide infinite mitigation reduction...

    If devs were ever going to change the set, then they would have months ago and they would likely have done the same to High Vizier and any other mitigation reduction sets.

    Finally, at the end of the day, what would you rather have: a CW with or without HV plus their control or a "dps cleric" (lol in Feywild) with High Prophet? It is not even a choice in most groups and even if the choice were there, the answer is obvious...

    DPS cleric? Ever think about a debuff cleric who can do just fine healing anything in high prophets? Therefore, faster boss kills and trash clears.
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  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    redeclipze wrote: »
    DPS cleric? Ever think about a debuff cleric who can do just fine healing anything in high prophets? Therefore, faster boss kills and trash clears.

    Sure, that's how I use it, at least on bosses or boss phases where I can or on easy trash dungeons (very rare these days for me since we'll just pull more to compensate) as a solo Cleric.

    I have also in the past used it permanently on the rare occasions I was able to be a dps/support Cleric and in pvp and did very well with it.

    But are you honestly claiming that most Clerics in the game change sets during a run let alone have a debuff set? If you are, then you clearly have not played on high level non-Cleric alts...
  • redeclipzeredeclipze Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    fondlez wrote: »
    Sure, that's how I use it, at least on bosses or boss phases where I can or on easy trash dungeons (very rare these days for me since we'll just pull more to compensate) as a solo Cleric.

    I have also in the past used it permanently on the rare occasions I was able to be a dps/support Cleric and in pvp and did very well with it.

    But are you honestly claiming that most Clerics in the game change sets during a run let alone have a debuff set? If you are, then you clearly have not played on high level non-Cleric alts...

    I never claimed anything, just that some clerics do fine running high prophets all the way thru any dungeon without there being any deaths. In pvp I have a completely different set.
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  • bootyjoosbootyjoos Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 54
    edited August 2013
    Yeah, I've been using High Prophet's with SB/AS/Divine Glow since high 9k or low 10k GS, no augment pet and no armour/weapon enchancements. Finished CN (maybe I was lucky with the randoms in parties though). Pre-Feywild; haven't gotten a chance to play since Feywild stuff came out. More party damage = stuff die faster = less heals required, in my opinion :)
  • dnosrcdnosrc Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 122 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Best thing about High Prophet is:
    Having a buff/debuff/heal Cleric and a DPS Cleric both with High Prophet = 6 Stacks of High Prophet Debuff :>
  • whistlingdixiewhistlingdixie Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    fondlez wrote: »
    The set, including the Bound boots (the previously only Bound set item in the game), have been accessible ever since the game was in beta. So, this is only new to you...

    I only played since release, but had no luck getting the boots. I suppose I could've farmed Cragmire Crypts over and over again, but no one ever cared to run it. I could have just queued up and prayed for the best. Still, getting those specific boots didn't seem too likely without dozens of runs.

    I did get boots from the other sets in DD chests, but never the High Prophet. But my first DD run after the patch, it rolled T1 boots, and sure enough, I just click High Prophet and that was that. I had the rest of the set waiting in the bank. I remember how disappointed I was when I just hit 60 and couldn't the the rest of the set.

    Maybe it's atypical, but my guildmates are pretty excited about it, too. They can notice the difference from the extra 30%. I don't think most other non-DC's understand just quite what we're capable of. We can double the damage you deal to a boss with a combination of buffs and debuffs.

    As for DPS cleric, I don't know. I read a lot of things on the forums that make me think a lot of people don't understand the class mechanics. And it's actually understandable, because some of them are quite complicated and the tooltip descriptions are often wrong or misleading. And of course, there are numerous bugs with our powers and feats that need to be taken into account. So yeah.

    Obviously the High Vizier bug you mention is going to be the best debuff in the game at the moment.
  • redeclipzeredeclipze Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    It just amazes me they were quick to fix the miracle healer exploit, yet high vizier remains untouched for ages.... and still untouched

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  • mtcoffeemtcoffee Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Does prophet's set bonus proc on Brand of the Sun's tics or just on initial attack?
  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    mtcoffee wrote: »
    Does prophet's set bonus proc on Brand of the Sun's tics or just on initial attack?

    No set bonus in the game procs on ticks, afaik. This is certainly the case for High Prophet.

    BotS in particular procs the debuff per application until three stacks.
  • whistlingdixiewhistlingdixie Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    redeclipze wrote: »
    It just amazes me they were quick to fix the miracle healer exploit, yet high vizier remains untouched for ages.... and still untouched

    GJ Cryptic

    And having played with both, I can definitely save, the High Vizier breaks the game way more than the extra Miracle Healer procs did. Of course, that's PvE. I am sure the MH bug was a big deal in PvP.
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