I've played since open beta and have 4 level 60 toons and between all of them I have maybe 120K and four companions to upgrade. This will be impossible for me. Why would you do this?
ranncoreMember, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 2,508
edited August 2013
It's a lot more than 300k. It's 750k to go from Blue to Purple.
Nonetheless I find the price to not actually be that devastating. Especially since the only companions worth using are the passive ones, which get no special bonuses for going past Blue.
Plus another 600K AD to play the new area per character LOL
Close, but it's actually a 80k, divided between 3 one time fees of 10k and 1 one time fee of 50k.
Considering each of the new areas gives new daily quests, you will literally earn the 10k per each of the 3 areas just doing the missions there. More, because you'll need to do them more than once.
Close, but it's actually a 80k, divided between 3 one time fees of 10k and 1 one time fee of 50k.
Considering each of the new areas gives new daily quests, you will literally earn the 10k per each of the 3 areas just doing the missions there. More, because you'll need to do them more than once.
...wait? What? You have to PAY to access the new content??
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kantazo1Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
...wait? What? You have to PAY to access the new content??
The first 2 areas are free, and come with about 8 new daily quests that award several thousand diamonds. You have to earn so much faction by repeating these quests. You'll probably earn about 20-30k diamonds before you have enough faction to progress to the next area, which requires the purchase of a key for 10k diamonds.
The fee is nominal, a very low cost AD sink. However, there will be whiners. There always are.
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syka08Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2013
Can you all please elaborate on what you mean? I'm currently at work but chatting with a friend who is running around Sharandar right now without having spent a single AD.
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syka08Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2013
Nvm. Got distracted and your response came up after I posted. Sorry!
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syka08Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2013
Gah, can't merge or delete other posts.
In some ways you can hardly blame people for whining about AD expenditure in game, when the information isn't readily available unless you played through on preview shard, I'm assuming (and at least I think it isn't, given this is the first time I'm hearing about it. Very easily could be wrong about this.) When most things that cost AD seem to be to a casual player, astronomically high, information when presented in that manner will trigger the typical negative reaction based on past experiences. The most recent clearly being the cost of companion upgrades. But hey, I simply won't upgrade my companions.
Thankfully, it seems that this AD expenditure isn't going to break a bank and that Cryptic has actually put something in place to make sure it doesn't. Granted, I would love to spend all that AD on something else. =P.
I still don't see this as a P2W model, however. Pay for convenience, yup. P2W? Nope, because I can obtain anything I need in game in order to complete content without having to spend a single Zen (which I've yet to do and have been around a month or so before GG went live, maybe longer.)
I've played since open beta and have 4 level 60 toons and between all of them I have maybe 120K and four companions to upgrade.
How did you manage that? Invoking on a lv60 character gets you 2k AD a day. You can sell the Celestial Coin 7-day enchant box on the auction for 20k+ (four characters, that's 80k every week). Leadership crafting tasks can get you at least 2-6k a day, even without obsessing over it (refreshing the tasks twice a day.... even at once a day, it's still a decent amount.)
How did you manage that? Invoking on a lv60 character gets you 2k AD a day. You can sell the Celestial Coin 7-day enchant box on the auction for 20k+ (four characters, that's 80k every week). Leadership crafting tasks can get you at least 2-6k a day, even without obsessing over it (refreshing the tasks twice a day.... even at once a day, it's still a decent amount.)
The first 2 areas are free, and come with about 8 new daily quests that award several thousand diamonds. You have to earn so much faction by repeating these quests. You'll probably earn about 20-30k diamonds before you have enough faction to progress to the next area, which requires the purchase of a key for 10k diamonds.
The fee is nominal, a very low cost AD sink. However, there will be whiners. There always are.
So I had spent a lot of money to buy the feywild patch and now I will have to spend other to play it? Good to know
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drdoodlemanMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 27Arc User
As I was saying for last 2 weeks its PAY to win ) but Im a "cry baby" lol
So if grinding in game currency, that can OPTIONALLY be purchased with real money is pay to win. Then Grinding gold in any other game is pay to win? Got it, I understand now. I was a fool to think every game out there was not pay to win. /shug I guess I was wrong.
So I had spent a lot of money to buy the feywild patch and now I will have to spend other to play it? Good to know
You didn't buy the patch, everyone can play feywild. From the posts above it costs in game currency...astral diamonds... in order to progress deeper into the expansion. You can chose to purchase zen and sell that zen for Ad if you wish, but ultimately it's a choice. It is no different than grinding gold to buy a key to access a dungeon.
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smidgyMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 5Arc User
So I had spent a lot of money to buy the feywild patch and now I will have to spend other to play it? Good to know
You didn't spend a penny to get the Feywild patch - everyone got it for free. What you might have bought is the Feywild pack, all parts of which can be used perfectly well on the normal, non-Feywild content. If you didn't realise this, I suggest next time, you make sure you know what you're buying before you buy it.
So if grinding in game currency, that can OPTIONALLY be purchased with real money is pay to win. Then Grinding gold in any other game is pay to win? Got it, I understand now. I was a fool to think every game out there was not pay to win. /shug I guess I was wrong.
In my opinion I would rather pay one fee for the game box and a sub fee a month and have ALL the content vs an f2p model any day. Then again I did spend $289 when I first started playing this game about 2 months ago. Since then I haven't done anything except occasionally post of the Neverwinter forums.
Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor.
~Sholom Aleichem
You didn't spend a penny to get the Feywild patch - everyone got it for free. What you might have bought is the Feywild pack, all parts of which can be used perfectly well on the normal, non-Feywild content. If you didn't realise this, I suggest next time, you make sure you know what you're buying before you buy it.
School is incession, let the learning begin.
Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor.
~Sholom Aleichem
This is what you bought, yes? Notice what isn't listed? 'Access to the Fury of the Feywild patch'. You know how I know that, aside from being able to read? I haven't bothered with this pack, but I am currently downloading the patch you seem to think you paid for.
This is what you bought, yes? Notice what isn't listed? 'Access to the Fury of the Feywild patch'. You know how I know that, aside from being able to read? I haven't bothered with this pack, but I am currently downloading the patch you seem to think you paid for.
Do you know why you are able to play the patch ? Because morons like me bought the pack and covered the cost to produce it. Go on and not worry I am the one that buy this round
I agree the Companion upgrades are too high I know they have to make money, (make the companions account wide and people might see this as an ok price to pay but not per companion per character) there have been numerous complaint threads right from preview about this.
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Nonetheless I find the price to not actually be that devastating. Especially since the only companions worth using are the passive ones, which get no special bonuses for going past Blue.
What Class Are You?
Close, but it's actually a 80k, divided between 3 one time fees of 10k and 1 one time fee of 50k.
Considering each of the new areas gives new daily quests, you will literally earn the 10k per each of the 3 areas just doing the missions there. More, because you'll need to do them more than once.
Yes sir. Yes indeed
Correcting: Paying for a whole new content bugueed ...
The first 2 areas are free, and come with about 8 new daily quests that award several thousand diamonds. You have to earn so much faction by repeating these quests. You'll probably earn about 20-30k diamonds before you have enough faction to progress to the next area, which requires the purchase of a key for 10k diamonds.
The fee is nominal, a very low cost AD sink. However, there will be whiners. There always are.
In some ways you can hardly blame people for whining about AD expenditure in game, when the information isn't readily available unless you played through on preview shard, I'm assuming (and at least I think it isn't, given this is the first time I'm hearing about it. Very easily could be wrong about this.) When most things that cost AD seem to be to a casual player, astronomically high, information when presented in that manner will trigger the typical negative reaction based on past experiences. The most recent clearly being the cost of companion upgrades. But hey, I simply won't upgrade my companions.
Thankfully, it seems that this AD expenditure isn't going to break a bank and that Cryptic has actually put something in place to make sure it doesn't. Granted, I would love to spend all that AD on something else. =P.
I still don't see this as a P2W model, however. Pay for convenience, yup. P2W? Nope, because I can obtain anything I need in game in order to complete content without having to spend a single Zen (which I've yet to do and have been around a month or so before GG went live, maybe longer.)
How did you manage that? Invoking on a lv60 character gets you 2k AD a day. You can sell the Celestial Coin 7-day enchant box on the auction for 20k+ (four characters, that's 80k every week). Leadership crafting tasks can get you at least 2-6k a day, even without obsessing over it (refreshing the tasks twice a day.... even at once a day, it's still a decent amount.)
Yeah thats how I am looking at it too, this is beyond silly.
If you want a real look at the state of the game/customer service, check out the forum where they move all the "deleted"/banned "spam"
So if grinding in game currency, that can OPTIONALLY be purchased with real money is pay to win. Then Grinding gold in any other game is pay to win? Got it, I understand now. I was a fool to think every game out there was not pay to win. /shug I guess I was wrong.
You didn't buy the patch, everyone can play feywild. From the posts above it costs in game currency...astral diamonds... in order to progress deeper into the expansion. You can chose to purchase zen and sell that zen for Ad if you wish, but ultimately it's a choice. It is no different than grinding gold to buy a key to access a dungeon.
You didn't spend a penny to get the Feywild patch - everyone got it for free. What you might have bought is the Feywild pack, all parts of which can be used perfectly well on the normal, non-Feywild content. If you didn't realise this, I suggest next time, you make sure you know what you're buying before you buy it.
"Brilliant"...just like the Gaunt debacle.
Maybe Phil Fish was on to something when he claimed that most modern Asian games are "HAMSTER."
In my opinion I would rather pay one fee for the game box and a sub fee a month and have ALL the content vs an f2p model any day. Then again I did spend $289 when I first started playing this game about 2 months ago. Since then I haven't done anything except occasionally post of the Neverwinter forums.
Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor.
~Sholom Aleichem
School is incession, let the learning begin.
Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor.
~Sholom Aleichem
I agree, I think this f2p stuff is for the birds and I've about had it
and I just laughed. It's like, No sir you did not spend a dime for this game, but my bank account on the other hand would beg to differ.
Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor.
~Sholom Aleichem
http://nw.perfectworld.com/feywildpack/feywildknight
This is what you bought, yes? Notice what isn't listed? 'Access to the Fury of the Feywild patch'. You know how I know that, aside from being able to read? I haven't bothered with this pack, but I am currently downloading the patch you seem to think you paid for.