Can anyone post or have screenshots of the new TR set in feywild armor/weapon? I be glad if someone posts, cause i'm having problems with my launcher atm, I hope some good Samaritan out there
So the bonus. Poison "someone" once every 30 seconds. What if you are using Blitz? Or Dazing Strike and hit more then one "someone", you guys think it will DoT everyone you hit? Considering its 1 ability, thats hitting more then one "someone" essentially at the same time?
Thank you for the response Set looks interesting, worth trying but at the look of it seems swash still better And I'm curious if those daggers have set bonus like the spymaster.
No offense. But I think the changes on Stalwart is necessary, Guardian Fighters should not be an overall like a damage dealing class in my opinion. The 1k+ bonus on power/reco benefited from swash (3 stacks maximum) is way not that of a big deal compared to stalwarts. And it's a T1 set too compared to swash which is a higher rank set.
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templarknight91Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Thank you for the response Set looks interesting, worth trying but at the look of it seems swash still better And I'm curious if those daggers have set bonus like the spymaster.
Np, as far as I know the Weapons have no set bonus, and the Damage is the same as Ancients but I'm not going to say 100% no set bonus I haven't done the Malabog's Castle so they could be hiding some items away for us to find on our own.
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asunazysMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
No offense. But I think the changes on Stalwart is necessary, Guardian Fighters should not be an overall like a damage dealing class in my opinion. The 1k+ bonus on power/reco benefited from swash (3 stacks maximum) is way not that of a big deal compared to stalwarts. And it's a T1 set too compared to swash which is a higher rank set.
compared to the other TR T2 sets swash is a bit too much. It gives both the master assassin and sinister shade bonuses (give or take) and allows for 100% up-time while the other 2 sets have serious limitations on the activation of the 4pc bonus. The T2 sets should compliment different builds, being more effective in some and less in others. We have TRs running around calling swash the bis gear for TR and tbh they are right.
Would have loved the feywild gear to give deflection as a stat over life steal though....might have considered it in that condition over my sinister
compared to the other TR T2 sets swash is a bit too much. It gives both the master assassin and sinister shade bonuses (give or take) and allows for 100% up-time while the other 2 sets have serious limitations on the activation of the 4pc bonus. The T2 sets should compliment different builds, being more effective in some and less in others. We have TRs running around calling swash the bis gear for TR and tbh they are right.
Would have loved the feywild gear to give deflection as a stat over life steal though....might have considered it in that condition over my sinister
For me it's not that swash is exaggerated. I think the other T2 TR set sinister/master assassin need some rework. They can put like a bonus deflection on the set 4 bonus of sinister or a bonus on the set 4 of master assassin like putting a trigger buff that can also pop by u sing an encounter and not limited to after a daily use.
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asunazysMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2013
well if someone already reach the crit and arm pen cap, power is the way to go... and im not gonna reach 4k crit like others do, 3.7k crit and 2.5k arm pen is enough for me then rest power, hoping to reach 6k+ if ever.
390 damage per second , for 15 seconds. And that only happens every 30 secs...so it means that in one whole minute i will deal 11.3k poison damage in a ****ing MINUTE.
What the hell is wrong with these people..
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focusmanMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2013
To speculate:
I am going to try the new gear IF the new Paragon path has +poison dmg feats/powers. Maybe combine it with a Bilethorn instead of Vorpal. It's just a thought but who knows...
Since I focus on bosses/high hp mobs and, well at least I cant be 100% always attacking them, the poison dmg is still affecting him. But then again....it must be a combination of feats/powers/bonusses etc... Lets wait and see before judging since on the first view the poison dmg bonus is indd not worth having compared to swash...
But then again I ask myself the +power and recovery bonus from swash, does that meet 5000~ dmg in 30 secs? Since power doesn't scale that much?
390 damage per second , for 15 seconds. And that only happens every 30 secs...so it means that in one whole minute i will deal 11.3k poison damage in a ****ing MINUTE.
What the hell is wrong with these people..
Perhaps it's because people can dish out more damage than 11.3k in less than a second with good gear. But I have to agree that this set can be powerful and fun to use depending on the situation, build, and most specially if you're facing up against other TR players who play based on stealth.
Bilethorn and other sources of Poison damage somehow reduce the Stealth meter of opponents much quicker than usual. So one hit of this effect against a TR in PVP and he may be effectively put out of stealth for an entire 15 seconds (or more) provided he doesn't have Shadow Strike. But this is only a theory so far. I know for one that Bilethorn's poison effects damages the Stealth Meter severely, so I'm speculating that this set works in a similar manner. Hopefully it does! Stealth is the main source of defense for us rogues. Having a gear that counters that defense would be interesting to have!
I also think that the "You may only poison someone once every 30 seconds" is confusing. Does it mean what it means directly, that we can only deal poison damage to one person every 30 seconds? Or does it mean that enemies can only be poisoned once per 30 seconds regardless of their number. We have skills that has a little AoE after all. If it's the latter then man this set can be awesome with the upcoming new Paragon Path that concentrates on ranged attacks.
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I don't think so. I apologize if I posted it in a way that made it seem like it's been finalized. It may still be open to changes, but from the new paths that were momentarily available to be seen in the new preview shard, it seems to suggest that the new paragon path concentrates on ranged skills. Check this out for more info.
Also I can not say this new que T2 is bad without testing,
would be better if the poison effect was linked to power.
DOT is interesting in the effect of potions can be stopped,
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Lol this set + razor action passive + whirlwind of blades =P 2 sets of blades into all surrounding enemies + poisoning all of them... sounds interesting in pvp.
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^ Precisely what I was thinking when I saw the set. 3 sources of damage in one fell swoop, but only if the Fabled Iliyanbruen set actually poisons enemies once every 30 seconds and not 1 person every 30 seconds. Hopefully we get good results once we test this new set. I'm really interested in how much it damages the Stealth Meter of a TR and if it's comparable to that of Bilethorn's.
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templarknight91Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2013
The fact the set says "Poison Someone once every 30secs" just tells you it will be ONE individual target and then my guess is there will be a cool down (possibly with your buff bars area under your name) that tells you when you'll be able to use the poison attack again.
Side note: I think I will do 2 Swash 2 Ancestral that way +450 Recov bonus + 450 Power Bonus.
Lol this set + razor action passive + whirlwind of blades =P 2 sets of blades into all surrounding enemies + poisoning all of them... sounds interesting in pvp.
Lika a hidralinsk of Dota? Like a Poison Nova? LOL
well the new weapons just got a set bonus. +450 critical strike. Also one is received from crafting but is BoP.
That would be the Malabog piece you have to collect different pieces each from from the chest or boss and then smelt them into 1 piece. On Preview the dmage was = to Ancients without a set. so them adding the set 2set bonus with the same damage would just make it another Ancients set with a different look.....Joy! not
Just a folow up question here. Does the fabled set comes only from malabog? Or from doing campaign? Haven't tried everything yet on the new update. So very curious to know something ahead. :P
That would be the Malabog piece you have to collect different pieces each from from the chest or boss and then smelt them into 1 piece. On Preview the dmage was = to Ancients without a set. so them adding the set 2set bonus with the same damage would just make it another Ancients set with a different look.....Joy! not
On live those have a bit higher damage than ancients. I for one am aiming towards getting this new weapon set.
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So the bonus. Poison "someone" once every 30 seconds. What if you are using Blitz? Or Dazing Strike and hit more then one "someone", you guys think it will DoT everyone you hit? Considering its 1 ability, thats hitting more then one "someone" essentially at the same time?
I wonder if this effect is classified as a CC. Hmmmmm
it is inferior to swash. and the weapons do not have a set bonus like CN weapons.
In fact, all of Feywild is inferior to the existing game. It is a step sideways, and a half a step backwards.
They just took a giant dump on Stalwarts. I wouldnt be surprised if Swash has a bat coming to it in the near future....
Np, as far as I know the Weapons have no set bonus, and the Damage is the same as Ancients but I'm not going to say 100% no set bonus I haven't done the Malabog's Castle so they could be hiding some items away for us to find on our own.
compared to the other TR T2 sets swash is a bit too much. It gives both the master assassin and sinister shade bonuses (give or take) and allows for 100% up-time while the other 2 sets have serious limitations on the activation of the 4pc bonus. The T2 sets should compliment different builds, being more effective in some and less in others. We have TRs running around calling swash the bis gear for TR and tbh they are right.
Would have loved the feywild gear to give deflection as a stat over life steal though....might have considered it in that condition over my sinister
Know that 1k Power only gives +40 damage? Power doesn't even have a soft cap, but the bonus it gives is not that worth stacking.
For me it's not that swash is exaggerated. I think the other T2 TR set sinister/master assassin need some rework. They can put like a bonus deflection on the set 4 bonus of sinister or a bonus on the set 4 of master assassin like putting a trigger buff that can also pop by u sing an encounter and not limited to after a daily use.
390 damage per second , for 15 seconds. And that only happens every 30 secs...so it means that in one whole minute i will deal 11.3k poison damage in a ****ing MINUTE.
What the hell is wrong with these people..
I am going to try the new gear IF the new Paragon path has +poison dmg feats/powers. Maybe combine it with a Bilethorn instead of Vorpal. It's just a thought but who knows...
Since I focus on bosses/high hp mobs and, well at least I cant be 100% always attacking them, the poison dmg is still affecting him. But then again....it must be a combination of feats/powers/bonusses etc... Lets wait and see before judging since on the first view the poison dmg bonus is indd not worth having compared to swash...
But then again I ask myself the +power and recovery bonus from swash, does that meet 5000~ dmg in 30 secs? Since power doesn't scale that much?
Can poison crit?
(yes Vorpal rocks..hard to beat...)
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Perhaps it's because people can dish out more damage than 11.3k in less than a second with good gear. But I have to agree that this set can be powerful and fun to use depending on the situation, build, and most specially if you're facing up against other TR players who play based on stealth.
Bilethorn and other sources of Poison damage somehow reduce the Stealth meter of opponents much quicker than usual. So one hit of this effect against a TR in PVP and he may be effectively put out of stealth for an entire 15 seconds (or more) provided he doesn't have Shadow Strike. But this is only a theory so far. I know for one that Bilethorn's poison effects damages the Stealth Meter severely, so I'm speculating that this set works in a similar manner. Hopefully it does! Stealth is the main source of defense for us rogues. Having a gear that counters that defense would be interesting to have!
I also think that the "You may only poison someone once every 30 seconds" is confusing. Does it mean what it means directly, that we can only deal poison damage to one person every 30 seconds? Or does it mean that enemies can only be poisoned once per 30 seconds regardless of their number. We have skills that has a little AoE after all. If it's the latter then man this set can be awesome with the upcoming new Paragon Path that concentrates on ranged attacks.
Is it a fact the new path will be ranged?
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I don't think so. I apologize if I posted it in a way that made it seem like it's been finalized. It may still be open to changes, but from the new paths that were momentarily available to be seen in the new preview shard, it seems to suggest that the new paragon path concentrates on ranged skills. Check this out for more info.
would be better if the poison effect was linked to power.
DOT is interesting in the effect of potions can be stopped,
following new updates
Fandangos TR 60 Half-Orc
Massivewall GF 60 Human
Massive GWF 60 Human
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We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
Side note: I think I will do 2 Swash 2 Ancestral that way +450 Recov bonus + 450 Power Bonus.
Lika a hidralinsk of Dota? Like a Poison Nova? LOL
That would be the Malabog piece you have to collect different pieces each from from the chest or boss and then smelt them into 1 piece. On Preview the dmage was = to Ancients without a set. so them adding the set 2set bonus with the same damage would just make it another Ancients set with a different look.....Joy! not
On live those have a bit higher damage than ancients. I for one am aiming towards getting this new weapon set.