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Lets Nerf Indomitable Strength Prone... its causing the most problems
abombination247
Member Posts: 1,279 Bounty Hunter
I see a lot complaining about a GF's prone and well I don't feel a big issue with them on the encounter basis. I can see maybe why they think that prones are out of control with CC prone stun lock. Its there daily that has the biggest prone that juggles you in the air. That can set you up for a lunging strike followed by 2 more prones. Well its a daily and its not up very often but in the line of chain CC I can see it to be annoying and not needed. So lets just get rid of it and have it cause a different effect. Suggestion would be good since doing away with prone.
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If you spent more time in-game learning to play the game and how mechanic's work you would soon realize it's not as bad as the forum warriors make it out to be. The Indomitable Strength prone is trash and block/dodge/unstoppable and used for the damage it gives not the CC. The animation is slow and easily noticeable same with most of the GF CCs.
As fun as it is being the proner, I do hate it when I'm on my CW and am the pronee heh.
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
People wonder why GF's hit so hard when they have a laser beam targeted on them.
And for the record, that is a GF only single target daily. If they nerf what makes it more useful than the other dailies,single target damage + control, then would have buff up something else.
By why do that when its just fine the way it is. Yeah getting tossed around isnt fun. But you have to anticipate that anytime engaging a guardian fighter.
Its like fighting a Control Wizard and not expecting to get hung around and them teleporting away when you get close.
Your input is nice though I will take that into account. Some more thoughts and suggestion though maybe from the rogues and cw's of the world.
Ditto.
/10chars.
So let's stop wasting time and QQ'ing for nerfs.
Nothing wrong with GF powers or TR powers, as they're solid and can be managed. This comes down to practicing.
So rather than waste time with more "nerf this" threads that you seem to be doing for the sake of trolling, be constructive. You've already made clear that you neitehr like nor use your class's core mechanics of marking and blocking, so what do you want here?
Please, stop trying to provoke people.
GF's are not the only class with a stunlock combo, GWF have one, TR's have one, CW have one.
Their at-will already has a pretty short range, and sometimes it bugs out at least for me, like the animation starts but then I don't go anywhere, sometimes this happens repeatedly. They are the only class that can continuously prone however, and prone is the only form of CC that cannot be broken with Unstoppable, ItC etc. GF is the only class that once 1 ability is landed there is a 100% chance of death before being able to move whatsoever. Not that I think they should be heavily nerfed, but it's just silly to say they have the same cc and kill potential of all other DPS classes
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
leap all over the map? Thier only distant closers is Lunging Strike, Threatening Rush, Bull Charge.
And all of them have relatively short range besides Lunging Strike.
Every single class has more mobility than GF.
Just what are you talking about?
I've had GF's leaping after me from point to point constantly, they usually have a hard time killing me on their own so i really mean, all over the map. On a class that can't deal with the dmg, this is broken luckily i can.
LOL, I think you will like to play GW2 where everything is nerf the nerfed content. LOL
That is the use of an at will. Threatening Rush. Which has a short range, but can be spammed to follow a target indefinitly if they dont move far enough away.
The ability does not use that much damage. And the only way they can move across the map, is if the person they are targeting are moving across the map.
And as I said before, 1 of thier 3 only ways to close distances on people.
LOL. A TR has many things wrong with most of its powers. Seriously. So many adjustments needed for that class to even be considered close to being balanced with the rest of the classes.
It can be very challenging to get to a target currently if they know actually how to kite. So you want a GF to never get to you it sounds like ?
Threatening Rush (at-will) and Lunging Strike (encounter) are great GF gap closers. They're also easily thwarted if the GF isn't fast with their shield or mis-times it. What class do you play?
Gf skills allow them to rapidly get into the fight, but once they're in it they're not going anywhere until a) the fight is over or b) someone else uses knockback or a control power that they don't block. They can spec for one-on-one control in PvP, and with Knight's Challenge can be more than a match for anyone not prepared for it.
hes fighting quintuplets GF that's why he can see GFs jumping all over the map
Hardly. First, each class has positives and negatives. Second, TR's are rather squishy strikers and the way most people play them they are more "glass cannons" than CW's who can significantly out-DPS TR's when the CW is well specced and played. Third, many of the players who are QQ'ing about TR's are doing so based on their own problems with playing against them in PvP rather than developing strategies (or just finding them on the forum) to counter them.
I've yet to see a well-thought out and reasonable critique of TR's and reasonable "balance" suggestions. If you have one to share, perhaps that will be the first.
Which class are you and is the GF using a skill called "Knights Challenge" giving them a 100% Damage increase while also allow you to do 100% more damage to them. Normal combo is they use their "Entire" set of encounters + daily to kill a CW or TR. (Unless they are running with a lot of gear built around burst vs. survival)
Which means they are even easier for your team to CC and blow up yourself.
I play a Cleric, the only way for me to dodge their Leaps are by Shifting towards em, and thats usually right into their backlines.
They can lock me down for quit a time, but they hardly ever kill me, not even with Knights Challange up. I can usually survive 2 of em aswell, unless they are really lucky with Tene procs.
So serious question here (as I was thinking it through, it occurred to me that it might come off as mocking and that is not my intention), have you not been able to dodge to the side? Because the only times my GF misses with a gap closer is with any other class that uses an evasion skill with good timing - including DC's. At this point I rarely miss with Frontline Surge, but that's an AoE knockdown that's a lot faster than Terrifying Impact.
so stop asking for nerfs start suggesting ways to buff the defences for the weaker classes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkrLwPtEQ9c
Quote from Labyrinth:
Sarah: That's not fair!
Jareth: You say that so often, I wonder what your basis for comparison is?
Clerics arn't CW's or TR's, we don't have a dodge. If I use my my SHIFT backwards, or to the side, the leap attacks are gonna hit me. If i SHIFT towrds the Bull Charge the attack still gonna hit me, but because of some bad programming it don't knock me backwards or prone.
The "Cleric Slide" (likely inspired by Cosmo Kramer) is a dodge, just not as nifty as a teleport or backwards roll.
Interesting, thanks. I wonder if it is a matter of timing, since DC's have dodged my Lunging Strike and Threatening Rush. I don't think any have dodged my bull charge, but I also tend to use that at shorter range.