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Cloud of Steel Idea

mctankypantsmctankypants Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2013 in The Thieves' Den
I know everyone is upset about the upcoming Cloud of Steel changes. I get it.
I've decide to make lemonade out of the lemons we've been given.
I now have 4 extra slots open that were previously occupied by knives.
I get hungry when questing so my plans are as follows...

1st pouch: Slim Jims
2nd pouch: Juice Box
3rd pouch: Fruit Snacks
4th pouch: Carrots

I can't believe they didn't think of this earlier.
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  • kentuckyfriedfookentuckyfriedfoo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I could really care less about 4 knives... I care about what daily is going to (in the august patch) actually make a different in a boss fight...
  • borgued3borgued3 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 150 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    mctankypants wrote: »
    I know everyone is upset about the upcoming Cloud of Steel changes. I get it.
    I've decide to make lemonade out of the lemons we've been given.
    I now have 4 extra slots open that were previously occupied by knives.
    I get hungry when questing so my plans are as follows...

    1st pouch: Slim Jims
    2nd pouch: Juice Box
    3rd pouch: Fruit Snacks
    4th pouch: Carrots

    I can't believe they didn't think of this earlier.

    Clever joke =P

    But on a more serious note, nobody cares for the cloud of steel nerf, that was merelly a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> on the rogue's face. The real deal is the stealth and LA nerfs. They are making a daily (remember we are a very slolw ap generation class) do only 3 things, thats is to maintain stealth a bit longer, glue you to a target and give 15% crit sev (so a lesser vorpal is more desirable than spend 3 skill points on a daily). Not to mention it lasts now 5 to 7 secs and can still be removed by the slightest control power that hits you.

    That combined with stealth loss with at wills will make even lurker unable to hold stealth for long (please correct me if i am wrong people of the test server) so combat advantage and everything else that feats and stats can buff for a rogue while he is on stealth are just being tossed out of the window. Stealth pretty much regressed to a means to guarantee a crit on LB.
  • zellistazellista Member Posts: 100 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    AP generation is non-issue at boss fights when you have Bait and Switch. A single aoe can fill up 50-80% easily. The AP generation problem lies with PVP.
  • lichlamentlichlament Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    And how often does one use Bait and Switch as a viable PvE tool ?

    Not very.
  • esteenaesteena Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1
    edited July 2013
    lichlament wrote: »
    And how often does one use Bait and Switch as a viable PvE tool ?

    Not very.

    I do , it helps me spamming LA.

    But since the LA is now worse than justin beiber's albums, i wont be using that anymore.
  • zellistazellista Member Posts: 100 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    lichlament wrote: »
    And how often does one use Bait and Switch as a viable PvE tool ?

    Not very.

    If you played as a stealth based build, you would. My str/cha TR with the stealth feat + pvp/gaunt set could pop LA every 35~ seconds or so (including LA duration). Just because you don't use it in your rotation doesn't mean it is any less viable of an option.

    Now all the more reason you have to NOT run it since lurkers isn't very useful anymore (after patch 15% severity lasting only 5 seconds). Not like there are other dailies worth using for PVE anyway. Unless you want to use blood bath to dodge aoes or something.
  • meeggtoastmeeggtoast Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 159 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    lichlament wrote: »
    And how often does one use Bait and Switch as a viable PvE tool ?

    Not very.

    Its not bad, liek esteena said it helps spam LA.

    ItC, ShadowStrike, B&S/Lashing/Wicked/Daze/Smoke

    Situational really. I use Bait&Switch alot in spider and CN it helps deal with aggro and spam LA.
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  • lichlamentlichlament Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    zellista wrote: »
    If you played as a stealth based build, you would..

    Obviously. I was referring to non stealth builds. You get more DPS out of other encounters instead of being so reliant on Lurkers.
  • savagedeaconsavagedeacon Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    kentuckyfriedfoo wrote: »
    I could really care less about 4 knives... I care about what daily is going to (in the august patch) actually make a different in a boss fight...
    if the 4 knives are really not important why do you believe they have nerfed them then? To do to you a favor?:p
  • mctankypantsmctankypants Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I plan on going on a quest to find out where my 4 extra knives ended up. They have to be somewhere...
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