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Has anyone run the numbers yet ?

percefuspercefus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2013 in The Thieves' Den
Has anyone run the numbers to see just how much impact this proposed patch will have on our class ?

Cloud of Steel: This power now has 8 maximum charges, down from 12.

This seems to be a huge nerf compared to the nerf to duelist's flurry, would be interesting to see the numbers.

Duelist's Flurry: When the bleed portion of this power is at 10 stacks, further applications now recalculate damage in addition to refreshing the duration.

This looks huge as well because above 8 stacks those numbers were huge....

Feat: Speed Swindle: This feat is now properly considered a Control effect for calculations and procs.

Lurker's Assault: This power now grants 5 / 10 / 15% bonus Crit Severity, instead of 20 / 40 / 60% bonus damage.
How much damage loss is there, just looking at it makes me think it's huge, it's like comparing apples to oranges...

Stealth:At-will powers used from stealth will now partially deplete the Stealth Meter.

Pre-patch = At-will powers will not spend stealth. Proposed Patch = At-will powers used from stealth will now partially deplete the Stealth Meter.

I am not a numbers man, but I am very interested to see just how much this proposed patch affects our class
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  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Only post I saw with calculations said ~30%, but there were some of the proposed changes are so vague it is hard to be certain.
  • bpskibbenheimsbpskibbenheims Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 210 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    There are also things changed that aren't noted that people are finding.

    I haven't run numbers, but I have run some DDs on the PTS and it isn't a harsh as the emotions on this board would lead you to believe. I will see if I can get a group together as gather some stats this evening.
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  • percefuspercefus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    bpskibbenheims wrote: »
    There are also things changed that aren't noted that people are finding.

    I haven't run numbers, but I have run some DDs on the PTS and it isn't a harsh as the emotions on this board would lead you to believe. I will see if I can get a group together as gather some stats this evening.

    That would be awesome and thanks in advance for the work. Much Appreciated!
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  • bpskibbenheimsbpskibbenheims Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 210 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    This guy did a good job. I don't know if there are any factors he left out, or if he made any errors, but it looks thought out and comprehensive.

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?420191-Test-Shard-vs-Live-Shard-Numbers
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  • lichlamentlichlament Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    that was me that ran numbers in a different thread on a 2 hour parse.

    The overall DPS decrease calculated out to roughly 28 % for your average rogue wearing tier 1.

    For my gear set up the DPS decrease was 23 % but I have a Greater Vorpal and run an original build.

    This nerf is cataclysmic in scale to the Rogue PvE situation.
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