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The forums are full of complainers

arcmoon99arcmoon99 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
edited July 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
I understand that most of the time when people have something to say on the forums it's a problem they encountered or they think they are encountering, but everywhere I look on the forums most of the post are how the game is broken. Most of them which are being repeated over and over again. There needs to be a forum section called the "Complaint Box" where all of the complaints go, so I don't have to look at people whining about how a free game that the don't have to spend any money on is broken lol. :rolleyes:
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  • parp12parp12 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Then this subforum would be redundant :)
  • satorusenpaisatorusenpai Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 167 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    It's common on forums. Too many self entitled people always expecting free stuff. Have you ever seen league GD? Every time something goes wrong, which really isn't that often, they demand 10$ for free as compensation lol
    Even if all the bugs were fixed people would still complain about classes, or things we don't have, or how x class shouldn't have been released 1st and something else should have been, etc.
  • deathssickledeathssickle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    arcmoon99 wrote: »
    I understand that most of the time when people have something to say on the forums it's a problem they encountered or they think they are encountering, but everywhere I look on the forums most of the post are how the game is broken. Most of them which are being repeated over and over again. There needs to be a forum section called the "Complaint Box" where all of the complaints go, so I don't have to look at people whining about how a free game that the don't have to spend any money on is broken lol. :rolleyes:

    Ive suggested such sub forums before also,you know it wasnt always like this though, nope... once it was peaceful... like ghosttown peaceful. We used to have very few forum regulars, but those who were there had fun talking about editions of DnD, the theories of hoe 4.0 will fit into the game, RPing, goofing off, and just having fun sharing in a community for a game we were excited for. Not that I dont like the fact that there are more people and such, it would be nice though if we could return to getting along(mostly) and just talking about a game we all love. Even though it isnt a realistic wish
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  • unirodunirod Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 159 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Yo Dawg, i heard you don't like people complaining on this forum. So I'm complaining about you complaining about other people's complaints.


    Dude....play some more... get to lvl 60. Set brain to "On" figure stuff out. understand. --> get in line with the "complainers"

    or don't ....and keep enjoying a broken game that is 90% populated by bots. Good for you if you still do. If you truly do enjoy this "game" I feel very sorry for you though.

    have a good day :)
  • lostmarblesherelostmarbleshere Banned Users Posts: 654 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    arcmoon99 wrote: »
    I understand that most of the time when people have something to say on the forums it's a problem they encountered or they think they are encountering, but everywhere I look on the forums most of the post are how the game is broken. Most of them which are being repeated over and over again. There needs to be a forum section called the "Complaint Box" where all of the complaints go, so I don't have to look at people whining about how a free game that the don't have to spend any money on is broken lol. :rolleyes:

    Wont happen asked about this since openbeta, or soft launch whatever it was. Wont happen cause newbee people will check that section out see the huge and growing list of exploits, bugs, botz, character inbalance, ...

    A section on the forum like this would send more people away from the game.

    The way it is now they can censorship much easier this way

    Plus we wont get the sycophantic response from the fanboys anymore whats the fun in that.
  • geargogglesgeargoggles Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Hm maybe by naming it General Discussion they enticed too many people to post, you know, general discussions in here.
  • khatzhaskhatzhas Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Generally, MMO forums have a high proportion of complaints because that is where people come to make them heard. Most people who are happy with the game don't tend to post.

    Constructive complaints, criticisms, and suggestions are an important method of feedback, and encouraged. Sadly, many posts are not constructive.
  • lostmarblesherelostmarbleshere Banned Users Posts: 654 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    parp12 wrote: »
    Then this subforum would be redundant :)

    LOL ya...

    You should just ask the dev's to rename this general forum section to say" Hey you idiots what the hell you need to listen to your fanbase please."
  • ahleraahlera Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It's time for some Monty Python...All together now! Always look on the bright side of life

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrdEMERq8MA
  • lostmarblesherelostmarbleshere Banned Users Posts: 654 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    khatzhas wrote: »
    Generally, MMO forums have a high proportion of complaints because that is where people come to make them heard. Most people who are happy with the game don't tend to post.

    Constructive complaints, criticisms, and suggestions are an important method of feedback, and encouraged. Sadly, many posts are not constructive.

    Seee here is a sycophantic fanboy.

    I for one have given up on the constructive part of complaining why put the effort into something its like talking to a wall in here. The dev's dont do anything or it takes them what anywhere from 2-4 months even longer sometimes to fix <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
  • kentuckyfriedfookentuckyfriedfoo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It's one of the worst developed games ever in terms of game management, if the community complains, there is something wrong, there are plenty of good games out there where players praise their publishers.
  • lostmarblesherelostmarbleshere Banned Users Posts: 654 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    kentuckyfriedfoo wrote: »
    It's one of the worst developed games ever in terms of game management, if the community complains, there is something wrong, there are plenty of good games out there where players praise their publishers.

    here this is correct i agree
  • ruprect1ruprect1 Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2013
    arcmoon99 wrote: »
    I understand that most of the time when people have something to say on the forums it's a problem they encountered or they think they are encountering, but everywhere I look on the forums most of the post are how the game is broken. Most of them which are being repeated over and over again. There needs to be a forum section called the "Complaint Box" where all of the complaints go, so I don't have to look at people whining about how a free game that the don't have to spend any money on is broken lol. :rolleyes:

    How would they know what to fix if people did not complain? The reason you see so much complaining is this game is very broken. I am just biding my time in this game until ffxiv comes out.
  • lostmarblesherelostmarbleshere Banned Users Posts: 654 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    ruprect1 wrote: »
    How would they know what to fix if people did not complain? The reason you see so much complaining is this game is very broken. I am just biding my time in this game until ffxiv comes out.

    The sycophants dont understand your logic they love and only think the game is perfect already
  • ruprect1ruprect1 Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2013
    lostmarbleshere wrote: »
    The sycophants dont understand your logic they love and only think the game is perfect already

    To me it seems like the complaining is a good thing. It gives the devs some idea of where they need to focus their resources.

    Obviously in a basically anonymous environment most of the criticism will not be constructive but it is criticism either way.
  • hetz000hetz000 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Ok i agree that there are legitimate complaints and they need to be addressed, but u cant expect that it will be fixed in "few mins" after someone post such a bug or glitch... On the other hand i understand devs of this game and any other for that matter, there are too many complaints to even read them all let allone adress them all. Problem is not only here but in any game that ppls commplaints are pretty much subjective, very few ones are good and objective and should be adressed as soon as possible.
    Here on this forum only thing that really bothers me is that every second thread is about how game is broken ,and why u should leave the game, for fak sake than leave dot spam the forum just leave, there are ppl who enjoy this game "broken" as it is.
  • kaelisakaelisa Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    khatzhas wrote: »
    Generally, MMO forums have a high proportion of complaints because that is where people come to make them heard. Most people who are happy with the game don't tend to post.

    Constructive complaints, criticisms, and suggestions are an important method of feedback, and encouraged. Sadly, many posts are not constructive.

    Of course not, angry people are never constructive, just unpleasant. On top of that you also have the people that constantly complain about the complainers. They add absolutely nothing to the debate or discussion. The so called "fanboys". They exists on every gaming forum. They rage over the fact that others are unhappy and fill their screen with so called "whining" and spreading horrible negativity.

    They wants us all to just shut up and feel blessed over the fact that they get to roam a virtual world for free. If not they have a very simple solution for every bug and imbalance/technical/design issue out there:

    "Leave if you dont like it"

    Eventually these two groups takes over entirely. That's what you get as a gaming company if you don't communicate and interact enough with customers and player-base.
  • conchitobananoconchitobanano Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 74
    edited July 2013
    The forums are full of fanboi apologists too!
  • hetz000hetz000 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    kaelisa wrote: »
    Of course not, angry people are never constructive, just unpleasant. On top of that you also have the people that constantly complain about the complainers. They add absolutely nothing to the debate or discussion. The so called "fanboys". They exists on every gaming forum. They rage over the fact that others are unhappy and fill their screen with so called "whining" and spreading horrible negativity.

    They wants us all to just shut up and feel blessed over the fact that they get to roam a virtual world for free. If not they have a very simple solution for every bug and imbalance/technical/design issue out there:

    "Leave if you dont like it"

    Eventually these two groups takes over entirely. That's what you get as a gaming company if you don't communicate and interact enough with customers and player-base.

    Problem as i see it here on this forum there are barely any discussion, most threads are just empty complaints about broken game, demands and calling devs neames. To tell u the truth i would like to discuss problems in this game , ppls thougths, possible solutions and stuff like that but i dont have time nor will to filter all stupid posts, nor threads, so many threads in this section...
  • timmbeertimmbeer Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    hetz000 wrote: »
    Problem as i see it here on this forum there are barely any discussion, most threads are just empty complaints about broken game, demands and calling devs neames. To tell u the truth i would like to discuss problems in this game , ppls thougths, possible solutions and stuff like that but i dont have time nor will to filter all stupid posts, nor threads, so many threads in this section...

    Have you considered that if a game is good and gamers are happy, will there be so much complains?
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  • khatzhaskhatzhas Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    kaelisa wrote: »
    Of course not, angry people are never constructive, just unpleasant. On top of that you also have the people that constantly complain about the complainers. They add absolutely nothing to the debate or discussion. The so called "fanboys". They exists on every gaming forum. They rage over the fact that others are unhappy and fill their screen with so called "whining" and spreading horrible negativity.

    They wants us all to just shut up and feel blessed over the fact that they get to roam a virtual world for free. If not they have a very simple solution for every bug and imbalance/technical/design issue out there:

    "Leave if you dont like it"

    Eventually these two groups takes over entirely. That's what you get as a gaming company if you don't communicate and interact enough with customers and player-base.
    Yep, but between the "fanboys" and the "haters", there are people with valid complaints and criticisms, and suggestions that would improve the game. They can have the critical thinking skills to discuss of other comments as well. Quite often they will have differences of opinion, but can stay civil while discussing them.

    It is those people who we need to prevent being pushed out by the two extremist groups.

    Ultimately, the game is not for everyone, but if people who don't like it can give constructive feedback as to why they don't like it, then perhaps the game may be changed so that more people do like it.
  • ruprect1ruprect1 Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2013
    hetz000 wrote: »
    Problem as i see it here on this forum there are barely any discussion, most threads are just empty complaints about broken game, demands and calling devs neames. To tell u the truth i would like to discuss problems in this game , ppls thougths, possible solutions and stuff like that but i dont have time nor will to filter all stupid posts, nor threads, so many threads in this section...

    I think if the game was more finished and less broken there would be more discussion of class mechanics gameplay and so on. The fact that I could get to 60 with T2 gear and a 10.5k GS in a matter of days is what tells me this game is going to fail. I am taking my time with my DC alt and I am still at level 35 in 2 days. I will be to 60 in another day or 2, I don't even have time to do the dungeons as I go as I out-level them to fast. In a game like GW2 there is room for discussion and less complaining as the game seemed finished, and it took a while to get to endgame. You also have many more options of things to do endgame as far as ongoing entertainment and customization of characters. I was able to play all but one class through to max level as there are many ways to level in that game. This game I am having trouble keeping entertained on my first alt, this is way to linear.
  • hetz000hetz000 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    timmbeer wrote: »
    Have you considered that if a game is good and gamers are happy, will there be so much complains?

    No one is talkin about that the game is good or not, if u have a complaint say it but with some proof and say your opinion why, not just "game is broken u should leave".Im not sayin game is pefect i have few complaints of my own and i would like to see them fixed, no game yet was launced that no one has no complaints.
  • khatzhaskhatzhas Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    lostmarbleshere wrote: »
    Seee here is a sycophantic fanboy.
    I'm not quite sure what part of my post upset you. It was certainly not my intention to hurt anyone's feelings to the point that they would feel that they had to break their promise to keep the ToC just to respond.
    Nevertheless, I would prefer it if you could keep things civil and honest if possible.

    The post was just something I noticed about the various MMO forums I have frequented: Even on the most successful MMOs there are always a high proportion of complaints, about balance, bugs, pay system policies etc.

    If you have problems with the idea of these forums being a place for constructive criticism, complaints or suggestions for the game, I would suggest that you may simply want to avoid them.
  • hetz000hetz000 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    ruprect1 wrote: »
    I think if the game was more finished and less broken there would be more discussion of class mechanics gameplay and so on. The fact that I could get to 60 with T2 gear and a 10.5k GS in a matter of days is what tells me this game is going to fail. I am taking my time with my DC alt and I am still at level 35 in 2 days. I will be to 60 in another day or 2, I don't even have time to do the dungeons as I go as I out-level them to fast. In a game like GW2 there is room for discussion and less complaining as the game seemed finished, and it took a while to get to endgame. You also have many more options of things to do endgame as far as ongoing entertainment and customization of characters. I was able to play all but one class through to max level as there are many ways to level in that game. This game I am having trouble keeping entertained on my first alt, this is way to linear.

    I agree with lvl too fast problem, and this is what i mean, that is legitimate complaint and we should all discuss about it and say our opinions, i dot mean discussion only about game balance and mechanics , discussion about problems to.As endgame goes i think they will put much more stuff for u to do in time, hell game is officially a month old.
  • cribstaxxxcribstaxxx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1,300 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    I seriously want to know why people who either quit the game, find it completely boring, or simply hate it for one reason or another spend their day posting on the forum?

    I'm being serious I would love to know why the people that do nothing but post "game is garbage I'm leaving" don't just leave? you obviously have the free time to post on these forums, why not go play another game or do something you do enjoy? If its so bad that you can't stand it why do you feel the need to go from thread to thread commenting and telling people that do enjoy it how they're just plain wrong and you're right?

    Just trying to understand because it baffles me that if you don't like the game why are you are here posting about it all day?

    Perhaps it really is the most fun game out there right now and you're just waiting until something better comes along. Ok, so be happy that you can play the "lesser of the evils" for free right now and when your game comes out have fun on it.

    Any answers would be enlightening, thanks.
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