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What is not DnD 4e about Neverwinter?
whitedrgn579
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Don't get me wrong, Neverwinter is an fun game and I am enjoying playing it. There are some things that are not correctly portrayed in Neverwinter compared to DnD 4e players handbook 1-3.(other than just customization)
1. Strength is primary for both GF and GWF in 4e but not in Neverwinter.
2. Paladin class is the only class that can wear plate armor in 4e not in Neverwinter, but most can use more than one type.
3. Some powers aren't available at the right levels(TR power duelist's flurry, lvl 1 at-will in 4e, lvl 20 at-will in NW).
4. AC not figured up right(4e: 10+half lvl+armor bonus+shield bonus+dex modifier+item bonus=AC, NW: 10+Armor bonus)
5. Most classes are proficient with simple melee and ranged melee weapons, some with military melee/ranged or even superior melee/ranged weapons in 4e, not just one or two like NW.
These are a few things I could think of at the moment, if anyone can think of more feel free to post here.
(This is not meant to be a complaint/rant, just thought I would create this for info purposes.)
1. Strength is primary for both GF and GWF in 4e but not in Neverwinter.
2. Paladin class is the only class that can wear plate armor in 4e not in Neverwinter, but most can use more than one type.
3. Some powers aren't available at the right levels(TR power duelist's flurry, lvl 1 at-will in 4e, lvl 20 at-will in NW).
4. AC not figured up right(4e: 10+half lvl+armor bonus+shield bonus+dex modifier+item bonus=AC, NW: 10+Armor bonus)
5. Most classes are proficient with simple melee and ranged melee weapons, some with military melee/ranged or even superior melee/ranged weapons in 4e, not just one or two like NW.
These are a few things I could think of at the moment, if anyone can think of more feel free to post here.
(This is not meant to be a complaint/rant, just thought I would create this for info purposes.)
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On what planet are you living that you think that 4E's mechanics would translate verbatim to an MMO game?
Ludicrous!
Its not about verbatim. Its about that they duidnt even try, slapped a generic combat MMO engine with zero depth with Faerun lore names, and called it a day.
Sure, DDO doesnt get 3e exactly right, but at least it tries.
Ah, ok, clearly you must have some deep insight into the development process and what their effort and intentions were all along. Would you mind predicting next week's lotto numbers while you're at it?
It seemed closer, though I'm no expert on either edition, preferring AD&D 1st ed. to any version put out lately. The game definitely has way more depth than NW in many areas.
Dude, its a cryptic game.
I've been following cryptic since CoH.
This is their basic design model.
step 1: Have good idea.
step 2: Halfass good idea to launch.
step 3: abandon said good idea, funnel all money and devs you can into new project.
step 4: repeat ad nauseaum.
The only reason CoH and STO survived it is because CoH's devs who stayed behind got funding from NCsoft and fixed most of what was wrong, and STO makes so much money theyre downruight forced to keep supporting it.
CO and neverwinte,r I expect will both see the other route of slowly decliming dev support while the money gets funneled to something else.
But speaking as a longtime Cryptic follower? I've pretty much come to expect them to HAMSTER out a half-finished mess and have maybe a 15% chance of ever fixing it.
If you're so unhappy with the company and their products, why do you still (apparently) keep using them? Plenty of other choices out there!
Because I like pissing off libertarian business apologists like you.
LOL, swing and a miss!
Pity.
STO's pretty much their only active game that deoent deserve to die in its current state.
CO's been dead for years, and Neverwinter's pretty much nothing but a cheap cash grab with elminster painted on the side in a gimp suit.
I should check it out some time, but I'm more a fan of TOS. The game looks pretty Next Gen in style, so it might be meh for me. CO is still kicking, just not getting any development to speak of. They wasted they opportunity the death of CoX gave them.
I'm aware. when CoH went down I went to CO in the hopes us new players coming would make CO fun again. I left a week later.
For example, in PnP D&D, a wizard having a high Intelligence modifier was pretty pivotal. Starting with 20 Intelligence was giving you a whopping +5 to hit with your spells, and a +5 to damage... whereas +1 is being given out at every two levels.
But in Neverwinter, you gain a boost in percentile values equal to your score minus 10. So, if you have 18, it's +8% to a couple of things.
I suppose that this is more newbie friendly to an extent, since it'd be hard for a beginner to truly mess up his character's build in its beginnings in any meaningful way... but it also makes the race/stat selection far more trivial/less meaningful a choice.
they also limit your rolls to a set of predetermined ones by class, so its literally impossible to build a character "wrong", or min-max stats effectively in any manner.
personally, I despise faerun and prefer Eberron , Ravenloft, or Dark Sun.
so I'd personally argue Faerun isnt the best setting. Just the easiest one to market because of how generic fantasy kitchen sink it is.
CoX didn't die it was murdered by NCSoft because their sales of GW2 weren't high enough and they didn't want to admit pumping all that money into a failure.