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d3l337
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Can any of developers, pr people, game master or community manager tell me something. What was done to prevent or stop botting?
Besides of saying "we are aware of the problem"?
It's easy to ban people for extensive exploit farming pirate kings lair ( as i remember).
There were no bans for HUGE AH exploits, just server revert aka Caturday.
On the other hand you may have server farm(computer cluster),farm 20 game instances on one with virual machines pc and it's ok?
No ip checks, no nothing, no check if someone plays 24/7?
No captcha while joining pvp.
So you want our money and do nothing? I want to spend more, give me reasons to do so.
Besides of saying "we are aware of the problem"?
It's easy to ban people for extensive exploit farming pirate kings lair ( as i remember).
There were no bans for HUGE AH exploits, just server revert aka Caturday.
On the other hand you may have server farm(computer cluster),farm 20 game instances on one with virual machines pc and it's ok?
No ip checks, no nothing, no check if someone plays 24/7?
No captcha while joining pvp.
So you want our money and do nothing? I want to spend more, give me reasons to do so.
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Cite, please?
The Wood Lord's Curse
Part I: Wild Man of the Wood
Part II: The Warlord's Tomb
Scale of bug was to large. And it was possible to enter negative value by accident.
If it was fine or small scale why to revert?
However about this little thingy i am not 100% sure.
Saw auctions with negative values after revert - item was on ah so user was not banned right?
PS. Reported toon@account for botting, asked rest of the team to do the sam as it was clearly visible, week after i see the same bot in pvp.
Thats a good news. So now now only botting question.
Yeah, I know what happened; I was just wondering if you had any evidence that no one was banned; I know they explicitly said they banned several offenders.
It may be that a few of them fell through the cracks, but I would not be at all surprised if those that did and continued to try to exploit were soon discovered and dealt with as well.
As for botting, I imagine they're still working on a solution. I know Captcha has been brought up before, but I hope they don't have to resort to that. I've always found those things to be a pain.
The Wood Lord's Curse
Part I: Wild Man of the Wood
Part II: The Warlord's Tomb
The details about bot detection are not public knowledge though. Such details allow programmers to make better bots.
Also there was a large amount of bans issued for the Caturday Exploit. Just because the company doesn't make a huge news post about how many accounts are banned doesn't mean the banhammer isn't falling on top of the cheaters.
There will never be anything done on this game about botz. The dev just make excuses saying its to hard or if we do this then the bot programmers get around what we did do.
So suck it up buttercup its a free game you get what you paid for which was nothing, unless you got sucked into giving them money.
Being free is also one major reason there are so many botz. So what if you get that account banned. Make another one and start bot all over again.
They did put a small dent in the Node farming botz. They made it suck for everyone not just the botters.
There are even zen/gold/AD hacks the code is broken on that also. Then also all the exploits and exploiters.
Explain why after weeks, some reported bots are still around, botting?
I call you out on this i checked out the botz for this game. The forums for them i dont use bots i havnt even logged into the game for month now. Nothing on the forums for these loosers says anything about gettin detected. So the users of these bots arnt saying they are getting detected. They are all posting all the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> they do and not saying they are getting detected.
Your details on how your detecting them is far from true then cause if they are getting detected they would be posting this and probly be upset about that. Cause they pay for this bot and if it doesnt work they wouldnt be happy.
But where is the 'cost' of having a free account banned? If they are clever, they hive off their money to other, valid accounts - so all it costs them is their time, which as a bot is free anyway.
"Hah! You are doomed! You're only armed with that pathetic excuse for a musical instrument!!!" *the Savage Beast moments before Lonnehart the Bard used music to soothe him... then beat him to death with his Fat Lute*
stop watching terminator
it can also happen all gamechars print themselves out in 3d printers with all systems in it to move and do all they can do in games, with realism as max ofcourse.
needs a lot of tech development and takes loads and loads of time ;p
and when it happens we just use manual exploits
. back to now ;p
or well "we" i won`t be alive at that time unless something weird happens ;p
That's part of the territory with F2P games unfortunately, until they can impliment a set of anti-botting measures (nowhere near as easy as it sounds) the only thing they can hope for is to ban the accounts faster than they can transfer their ill gotten gains.
The cost is the time investment put in to level a character to max level to be able to maximize output.
..which isn't that much, if you're a botter. You can go from cold to level 10 in an hour even if you're not really trying, then you run the bot up and the rest happens AFK. Once you get to 60, a free t1 PvP set will get you set, and the AD from duping (if you're that way inclined) will pay for enchants, otherwise, Leadership will certainly get you going with the basics. Time investment: an hour or two.
Yes its not much but it is time that is taken away from gaining profits, thus it being a cost factor.
Same accounts, over and over, reported numerous times. Nothing done, they still post new stacks several times per day/week.
The insulting thing is, some of them quite blatantly use their RMT website as the character name. Still nothing is done about them.
You really don't grasp the dynamic here at all.
No I do, we were talking about a cost being involved and I am explaining where the cost comes from. Yes it is a small cost but it does exist.
Neverwinter at low levels is so trivially easy, that you could almost certainly automate it so the 'effective' cost here is close to zero.
Close to zero doesnt equal zero though which means there is a hit, even if minimally, to maximum profits.
Justice unseen is justice denied.
No justice, no peace.
No peace, no cake.
Geth!
so no cost, since they been botted to max lvl ;p
only electric bill, nothing more.
And I have yet to see Cryptic implement any effective strategy in curbing the bots. It really can't be that difficult either, especially if you utilize human eyes to catch botters instead of relying upon just AI in the engine. I have no idea what measures Cryptic uses--none of us do--but we should all see the results in pvp: botters are still rampant.
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Again a sycophantic response. You do not see the lack of logic.... YOu arnt waisting any freaken time at all its run by a bot. The bot can also lvl your toonz. You do not loose anything. You can run multi games at once all run by botz funnel the gains to mules then send the gains to your toonz you actually play with or sell your stuff and or characters for real money.