SLightly OT - Is this only exploitable on the Delzoun side? on all the videos etc. I've only seen it shows the Delzoun side being camped or is it just bad luck/coincidence that the people most willing to exploit this happen to be on the luskan team?
I played a GG PvP that went bad yesterday(lots of luskans d/ced so it was 13v20) and there were a few Delzouns who managed to get into the Luskan spawn. Beholder here.
You know that right now you're playing their (the campers) game? By becoming angry or attributing ideals to the play style they they win, the only legit tactic is to do the same against them and at least deny them the in-game spoils. This would have a couple of effects - everyone else on your side stops getting victimised and the whole situation devolves into such a cluster**** that the devs have to prioritise GG spawn camping higher to fix it.
I vote burn the whole thing down.
I know you're right on a logical level, but I just can't bring myself to do it. The only way I could justify engaging in it would be if I knew the opposing team was already doing it, and I believe at that point it would probably be too late to reverse the outcome. I'd be willing to try certainly, but the whole exploit really relies on pre-planning and having a 5 man premade that knows the exploit and runs it in a coordinated fashion. So you'd run the risk of griefing an instance that had no intention of running the exploit on anyone else.
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logansmith229Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 13Arc User
edited July 2013
The scrub thanks guys, its always nice to get publicity for destroying your whole team. 10/10 would camp again
Not so sure - I know more than a few people with exactly the same mentality on the Delzoun side on Mindflayer and Beholder so I'm curious as to why I haven't seen any vids etc of Delzoun side doing spawn camping. If this is only available to one side then it's a bit more crappy of an exploit than usual, if it's possible for both then whatever, Delzoun should step up and start doing exactly the same thing instead of complaining since it's a legit tactic with no possibility of punishment.
This guy gets it. As soon as more people figure it out, it will become more prevalent. GG Is going to be a rush to the opposite GY, first one there wins GG. Is that how it was intended? No. Is it going to detract the enjoyment of GG? Depends who you ask... IMO GG is a joke anyway so not for me.
Advantages of GY Camping
Double the coins Win or lose
Less effort
Disadvantages of GY Camping
Unsportsmanship
Could be considered exploitation
When you weigh up the pro's and con's I'm confident the majority of people would GY camp. Because it's all about the coins amirite? FH speedruns anyone?
That's the reality of the situation and IMO you as a customer shouldn't be left with the moral decision on whether to camp or not. It's a consequence of having a poorly managed development team with their financial priorities above basic game mechanics. I think once people realise this, they won't have such high expectations.
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humanitarian7Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 6Arc User
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I played a GG PvP that went bad yesterday(lots of luskans d/ced so it was 13v20) and there were a few Delzouns who managed to get into the Luskan spawn. Beholder here.
I know you're right on a logical level, but I just can't bring myself to do it. The only way I could justify engaging in it would be if I knew the opposing team was already doing it, and I believe at that point it would probably be too late to reverse the outcome. I'd be willing to try certainly, but the whole exploit really relies on pre-planning and having a 5 man premade that knows the exploit and runs it in a coordinated fashion. So you'd run the risk of griefing an instance that had no intention of running the exploit on anyone else.
Scrubs gotta eat too. :cool:
I thought it was against forum rules to post videos defaming players...
Didn't listen to the audio but there would have to be something bad about spawn camping before that video painted anyone in a negative light
This guy gets it. As soon as more people figure it out, it will become more prevalent. GG Is going to be a rush to the opposite GY, first one there wins GG. Is that how it was intended? No. Is it going to detract the enjoyment of GG? Depends who you ask... IMO GG is a joke anyway so not for me.
Advantages of GY Camping
Double the coins Win or lose
Less effort
Disadvantages of GY Camping
Unsportsmanship
Could be considered exploitation
When you weigh up the pro's and con's I'm confident the majority of people would GY camp. Because it's all about the coins amirite? FH speedruns anyone?
That's the reality of the situation and IMO you as a customer shouldn't be left with the moral decision on whether to camp or not. It's a consequence of having a poorly managed development team with their financial priorities above basic game mechanics. I think once people realise this, they won't have such high expectations.