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pizzamurai
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Do you want it removed from the game, nerfed, or are you okay with it?
Only way to get tenebrous enchants, to my knowledge, is through nightmare lockboxes. That means you either have to spend AD or zen to do so, there's no way to "earn" them through dungeons or what have you. You're literally paying absurd amounts of currency in order to kill people in seconds.
I haven't pvped seriously at 60 for over a month now because every time I do, I get maybe one good match out of three, because I'll find a cleric or CW that kills me in 3 seconds flat (regardless of what class I'm playing) because of stacking greater tenebrous enchants. Most of you people complaining about class balance probably don't even notice it's not the class actually killing you in most cases, it's the tenebrous enchants in their gear (look for the flames lingering on your body, if you can even survive long enough to see them).
I don't like making posts like this, but this one enchant has entirely killed my desire to pvp once level 60 is reached (The bots are a close second, but that's not an easy fix)
Only way to get tenebrous enchants, to my knowledge, is through nightmare lockboxes. That means you either have to spend AD or zen to do so, there's no way to "earn" them through dungeons or what have you. You're literally paying absurd amounts of currency in order to kill people in seconds.
I haven't pvped seriously at 60 for over a month now because every time I do, I get maybe one good match out of three, because I'll find a cleric or CW that kills me in 3 seconds flat (regardless of what class I'm playing) because of stacking greater tenebrous enchants. Most of you people complaining about class balance probably don't even notice it's not the class actually killing you in most cases, it's the tenebrous enchants in their gear (look for the flames lingering on your body, if you can even survive long enough to see them).
I don't like making posts like this, but this one enchant has entirely killed my desire to pvp once level 60 is reached (The bots are a close second, but that's not an easy fix)
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Clarified OP. I have pvped in the last month, but sparingly, because it's frustrating being killed in 3 seconds by enchants. I want to like PVP, I really do.
There is not pay 2 win, there are many forms you can take them, some of them explained before. If you don't want to it's not our problem.
And is not disbalanced on PVP since it is posible for all characters to equip them, all have the same posibilities. If you prefer gear with other stuff it's again your problem.
So stop crying and learn to play, or bring us any valid solution.
In my opinion, Tenebrous shoud be DoT to decrease burst, with that you can correct the only problem with this enchants.
See you.
Aaaand this has to do with the thread subject and/or the price of tea in China how?
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At no time was it said to be a "bug" or a "bugged enchant" a glitch, an abnormality? The developers had made no such mention.
Some ppl's perspective of it being "broken" does not change the fact that real money had been spent on an item that would not have been spent on, if it was not the way it is.
Already they have increased the cooldown of it's proc rate, and still the people who have it stayed quiet. I suppose this is within reason.
Do not presume the silence will persevere with yet another "nerf" or removal altogether, without some sort of compensation.
So? How is this to be settled?
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1. script unbinds all of them into player's inventory
2. They are changed to weapon enchant slot, maybe even buffed a little
3. They are made way harder to get, lower drop rate from box by a LOT or totally disable it (this way everyone who spent lots of money on them probably actually gains money when they sell them)
Nice idea.
However. Who would buy it, after it is changed to weapon enchantment? Who would take a 3% of your max hp in dmg and reduce def by 15% enchantment with a chance to proc, over an already existing confirmed 15% or so of additional weapon damage that doesn't need to be proced?
The real solution is. If you want it gone so bad. Make a npc where they can be traded to their their offense slot enchantment equivalent.
I'd say a greater tenebrous would translate into a rank 10?
Lol.. they stay quiet because it is still extremely overpowered and they know it. That is why they do it.
The difference between these enchants and stacking crit or buying gear is that neither of those allow a complete **** to the game to spam an at will at somebody amd have them die in seconds. That is what these enchants do.
I do not care if they are nerfed, made to be unstackable, or removed from the game.
And why would people need to be compensated for taking advantage of an overpowered enchant? They already have had all the compensation they need by way of mindless glory farming without needing to have any skill whatsoever whether they had it before or not. Several of the clerics I fought with this setup are horrid players and do not even dodge, but yet they end matches with 20+ kills simply because of the enchants. Why would you compensate people for that?
Casualties happen when classes are balanced, this is no exception. Unless you are going to acknowledge and counter with " but people paid lots of money for that!" .....exactly.
Wrong. People who open lockboxes have a CHANCE to get one. The enchant itself is not even advertised. Do not even get me started about false advertising laws and how utterly useless they are.
I have no qualms about them recieving somethng in return if they were removedor the idea below about swapping it to weapon enchant sounds very good as well.
I think a 5% chance to deal 10% of your health in damage would work pretty well. In the weapon slot.
I voted nerf actually but thank you for playing. Any "improvement" would still be a major nerf, as it should be. The poll is entirely objective with the caveat that every logical voter acknowledges that stacking normal/greater tenebrous is horribly overpowered.
So many people paid **** loads of money on them and PWE wouldn't want to drive their "money spenders" away.
(btw, they arent that expensive on AH. A normal player can buy them. normal Vorpal enchantments are much more expensive than greater tenebrous ones )
I see where you stand on this.
Might i ask, when u said it is "overpowered" is there an official word on this? Same to everyone that is claiming they are "broken"
is there any acknowledgement from the actual creators/developers on this?
If there is please show it to me. I will then stand corrected. Untill then, am i safe to say this was an intended feature in the game?
Also, i agree it is definitely the best enchantment for an offense slot currently. Having said that. should the best enchantment come cheap or free?
I'm not involved in game politics or what have you, but i believe that if something in the simple principle of "getting your money's worth"
In closing. For all of you calling for a further "nerf" or total removal. I'd say, think of ways to compensate players who already have these.
If that is not on your mind, then i take it you are suggesting that the company just ignore and deal with the supreme real money lashback of players that have already paid money/invested time, and cater to those that have not/don't wish to spend/invest time.
Lets see if that happens then.
Thank you for reading.
hold the weight of THEEZ NUTS.
Lets see if PWI/Cryptics wants to HOLD THE WEIGHT of ALOT of ppl disputing, charging back, etc etc, just to please ya CRYBABIES k?
I wanna SEE them do that^^
When I see somebody with 28k HP and 7 Gtreater Tene'z I pizz myself laugh'n... & proceed to whoop dat ***!
Something being available to anyone doesn't mean it is auto balanced.
yea in a P2W game it basically does.
Run CN couple times, loot nice loot, sell, u got 1 greater already. The downside of having tenes is that u cant have any other offense slot thing, such as armor pen, which is in some cases (GF etc.) even better than having tenes
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Actually, it has been a few weeks since I have seen any problems at all with this game. Everything seems perfect from my point of view.