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Alchemy Mithral Tools are useless. Please fix

satansnemesissatansnemesis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 67
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
After looking at the Alchemy profession closely I see the Mithral tools are 100% useless. If I spend tons of RL money or Millions upon millions of AD I can get 4 different Mithral tools which will give me a 60% chance to gain TWO more potions. Seriously??? With 4 blue tools I have almost 100% chance to get the tier two result (which I will get MANY, MANY times with 4 mithral tools anyway). 4 Mithral tools should give 100% chance or a heck of a lot more potions. Realistically each tier should at least double your output. Please fix this.

***Edit***

After further inspection I guess it doesn't really matter because Alchemy is pretty broken anyway. I looked at the recipe for Potion of Major Healing and it actually COST MORE silver to make it than it does to buy it from the vendor. Not to mention the amount of time required to make ONE potion...

Steps To Make 1 Potion of Major Healing

8X Gather Simple Components - 10 min - No Cost
8X Simple Vitrol Extraction - 10 min - 16 Solvents
4x Aqua Vitae - 10 min - 8 Solvents
2x Aqua Regin - 40 min - No cost
3x Gather Complex Components - 20 min - No cost
3X Complex Vitrol Extraction - 20 min - 6 Brimstone
1X POTION OF MAJOR HEALING - 1hr 40min - 1 Quicksilver

24 Solvents = 4 Silver 80 Copper
6 Brimstone = 6 Silver
1 Quicksilver = 5 Silver
Total cost = 15 Silver 80 Copper

Cost of Potion of Major Healing from Vendor = 7 Silver
Time required to buy it from vendor = Almost none
Post edited by satansnemesis on

Comments

  • nevfenevfe Member Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    As you say, completely broken and pointless.
  • madqhuemadqhue Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Most of the professions were designed by someone who failed math.
  • crystal7jcrystal7j Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Agree. I am in tailoring and out of all I have made only two items were useful at my level. I like the system of crafting in this game where you hire someone but it needs some repair to make it more effective. As of now it's only use is to get some event reward when it comes up next to the mini map.

    Also, they know it's not good. A sign that a game is not taking their crafting seriously is when there are no crafting threads on the forum.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You are actually making Health Potions with the Alchemy profession? Only at level 4, but I saw a distilled minor health potion which seemed to be a cross between the minor health potion and minor rejuvenation potion. Alchemy is for the buff potions, unique potions, and dyes not for stuff you can buy from a vendor.
  • rudolphobhrudolphobh Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    You are actually making Health Potions with the Alchemy profession? Only at level 4, but I saw a distilled minor health potion which seemed to be a cross between the minor health potion and minor rejuvenation potion. Alchemy is for the buff potions, unique potions, and dyes not for stuff you can buy from a vendor.

    Yeah, this. I believe the alchemy distilled equivalent of a major healing potion does instant healing = to the amount a store bought one does, but then another 50% over 10 seconds.

    That is a pretty major difference, and makes it worth quite a bit more IMO.
  • satansnemesissatansnemesis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 67
    edited June 2013
    I'm not making them. It would be nice if it was feasible, but it is not. It cost over twice as much to make them as it does to buy them. The Buffed potions are nice, but seriously.... 30 min to upgrade a potion??? If I have the materials it should be pretty much instant. Leave timer on the gathering tasks, experiments, and Leveling tasks but remove it from the creation tasks. If they have to have a timer that is 30 min I should be getting a stack of at least 10. This is the only game I have seen where it takes you an hour to make a potion.

    I love the way crafting is done in this game but I hate the way almost every crafting recipe is useless. Please take a little time and adjust everything to make it more useful. Most of the good crafting tools come from the Zen shop so if you make crafting useful it will only generate more income.
  • kaiserschmarrnkaiserschmarrn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 390
    edited June 2013
    Alchemy only has 3 useful pots: that's the Potion of Power (+25% AP refill), the Major Flask of Potency (Crit, Rec, Power +225 and +7.5% crit severity for 1800 seconds) and maybe the Distilled Healing pots. The rest is useless and stands in no relation to the invested time and resources and it's a joke that the healing potions are twice as expensive to make than those from the npc store.

    And to add insult to injury Alchemy is still bugged on the AH - you can post the useful pots I mentioned above, but they do not show up in searches, so you can't even sell them for AD. See my bug report here: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?367102-Auction-House-bug-Potions-of-Power-not-showing
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