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bcvapor
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..Surely that is the motivation here, since forcing guilds is such a backwards, ridiculous idea from the '90s. Especially since you can't even see the game's content now unless you submit to the forced guilding requirement. Nothing for you unless you comply. Schnell!
Will the Zen store will have guild only buffs or other more p2w items for guilds. Where will they make the cash.
Will the Zen store will have guild only buffs or other more p2w items for guilds. Where will they make the cash.
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Probably referring to the way Gauntlgrym needs you to be in a guild to participate. Not sure why they're assuming every single decision is based around "makes us money", though.
So the forced guilding to see content idea must be about money, since otherwise, it's such a boneheaded move.
Gauntlgrym. If you want to see gauntlgrym, you must be in a guild.
This is the only lvl 60 content that has been released(yes a month old if you consider beta)...but consider people hit max level in a day or two. I hit max level a week ago, playing very casually and sparingly...lots and lots of people have multiple lvl 60s already and want to see something else.
So they gave gauntlgrym, forcing the solo player to be guilded if they want to see it.
Get over it, seriously, some things are made to be multiplayer.
To be fair, there's plenty of "multiplayer" things that don't require being guilded. /shrug
(I still don't see it as a "way to make money" thing.... more of an "encourage real guilds" thing.)
It is a well researched thing that guilds help players continue to play a game beyond the point they would normally quit playing. This is the exact same practice as joining a gym with a friend verses going solo...
If you are playing Neverwinter you will be a potential customer which equals $$$. If you are not playing then that is lost income.
What's their angle here? What's the scam?
also if you don't want to play with other people ...
you should find a different game type other than mass multiplayer online games
New patch - 30 day wait if you want to change guilds (say, for the other faction when it becomes obvious one is better than the other)
Cash Shop - new token for immediate guild change 1000 zen - lol
Just like forcing you to join a group to do dungeons and skirmishes, I really don't think there's a scam. They just designed it to be, and want it to be a guild feature.
As another has pointed out. Research does show that guilded players do stay longer than solo ones. So they could indirectly be trying to raise player retention by convincing them to join guilds.
Also, players often complain that there is no reason or incentive to join a guild in MMOs. This could just be a way to give guilds a purpose.
So that in a new patch they can make changing guilds unavailable for 30 or 60 days without a cash shop token of some sort.
You want to change factions? Guild leader won't pay out 750k AD? You can buy a token for 1000 zen - lol...
This is where people show ignorance.
Massivly Multiplayer simply means lots of people online doing the same content at the same time
rather then a single player counsole game.
It has nothing to do with grouping forced or otherwise.
For those saying being guilded means you stay longer because you got help... thats BS as well force people to
play a certian way through poor design and game mechanics will force peole to leave for a game that lets them play thier way.
Bad design is bad design no matter how you spin it.
You should think a bit before you type utter <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> like this.
Maybe people don't mind playing with other people, but don't want to have to join a guild and play by someone else's rules?
That's the main reason I don't guild. I don't want to play and have to measure up to anyone's standards but my own.
Occam's Razor makes the cutting clean.
If we can go through this crud to circumvent the annoying obstacle Cryptic has designed into the game, why is the obstacle there in the first place?
I don't recall any game from the 90's forcing you into guilds, infact I don't remember that till 2004 came about. Even then you didn't really need a guild. And I have played a lot of MMO's though I did skip EQ but played Isteria. Lineage 2, FFXI, Everquest 2, Ragnarok Online, there's more I am just forgetting lol at any rate FFXI was probably the only game that I could see forcing you into a guild, or linkshell same thing really, but you didn't need to be in one.
GG is probably what we can expect from here on out:(
Everquest requires you to be in a guild if you ever want to do end game raids (which fit up to 72 people for Planes of Power raids).
Nothing worse than random pugs saying screw it and leaving group or saying they ran out of time and need to head to work.
Guild runs curb stomp that issue.
You..can't read can you? No shame in it, well, there is when you proceed to make a fool of yourself by posting nonsense, but I'm sure you grew accustomed to that years ago.
Everquest Truly the hardcore gamer's game. :P
what a crock of BS. As a solo player I am more inclined to purchase zen and buy the items I want. If I was in a guild I don't really need to because I can obtain everything I need from in game methods such as running dungeons and doing the daily quest faster with guildmates. Doing that enough times I'd have plenty of diamonds to just buy whatever else I needed from the AH without ever having to support the game with my wallet. Flawed research is flawed.
^this
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