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    tyrtallowtyrtallow Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Fact, there are still lots of groups doing end-game content and finishing them consistently. And many of them run only a single cleric.

    What the patch merely did was make end-game content more exclusive. You want to do better? Be better. And learn to work with a good team, PUGS will always be just PUGS and this is a game where coordination/communication is extremely important. After all, we are talking about end-game content here are we not?

    In other news, low-mid level clerics are actually in a much better place than they were pre-patch. Now the main reason why half the adds in the dungeon are chasing you is because the tank/off-tank/control is not doing their job properly. As long as you do your job (pre-50 this means spamming Astral Seal/Sunburst then Astral Seal or Sunburst/Forgemaster's Flame) you are no longer to be held accountable for a wipe... unless you step on a red circle and die. 90% of the time a wipe is someone else's fault now.
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    kevinf08kevinf08 Member Posts: 432 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    AS was never broken until they nerfed it, now one of my clerics doesn't even use it.

    Ranking up AS wasn't intended to lower the cooldown. It was broken.
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    landragoonlandragoon Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    kevinf08 wrote: »
    Ranking up AS wasn't intended to lower the cooldown. It was broken.

    Do you really believe this? Do you really believe AS was not supposed to increase in time with increasing ranks? How come it did, then, for a long time, with no comment on it? Did the time increase just sneak in by accident, a typo or something? It obviously was an intended functionality. I won't take the tooltip as an indication, since we all know how terrible tooltips in this game are.

    Calling the AS nerf a "fix" is just PR. They don't want the wider playerbase to realize they nerfed the only viable skill of an already fairly one-dimensional class. It's the same with the sticky post that supposedly "explains" the reasoning behind the "fix". Just read it: "We've received a lot of positive feedback about the changes to Astral Shield, and it seems that many Clerics are enjoying all the other buffs and fixes." Is this the truth? Heck no, it's not. However, people that do not frequent the forums frequently will probably read this post first (sticky + PW icon), think their opinions are not warranted and shut up about their discontent.
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    wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    kevinf08 wrote: »
    Ranking up AS wasn't intended to lower the cooldown. It was broken.

    that wasn't broken, it allowed clerics to use divinity on stuff other than AS as well as to be able to have divinity in PvP ... might not have been their original intention, but it was very playable and I'd even say necessary
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    wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    landragoon wrote: »
    Do you really believe this? Do you really believe AS was not supposed to increase in time with increasing ranks? How come it did, then, for a long time, with no comment on it? Did the time increase just sneak in by accident, a typo or something? It obviously was an intended functionality. I won't take the tooltip as an indication, since we all know how terrible tooltips in this game are.

    Calling the AS nerf a "fix" is just PR. They don't want the wider playerbase to realize they nerfed the only viable skill of an already fairly one-dimensional class. It's the same with the sticky post that supposedly "explains" the reasoning behind the "fix". Just read it: "We've received a lot of positive feedback about the changes to Astral Shield, and it seems that many Clerics are enjoying all the other buffs and fixes." Is this the truth? Heck no, it's not. However, people that do not frequent the forums frequently will probably read this post first (sticky + PW icon), think their opinions are not warranted and shut up about their discontent.

    the cleric received no buffs... and the fix to take the mobs off of the cleric by nerfing the cleric and making clerics less needed by bolstering the defenses and self-healing capabilities of the fighters was an absolute insult to the cleric
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    sh4dowrunn3rsh4dowrunn3r Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tyrtallow wrote: »
    Fact, there are still lots of groups doing end-game content and finishing them consistently. And many of them run only a single cleric.

    What the patch merely did was make end-game content more exclusive. You want to do better? Be better. And learn to work with a good team, PUGS will always be just PUGS and this is a game where coordination/communication is extremely important. After all, we are talking about end-game content here are we not?

    In other news, low-mid level clerics are actually in a much better place than they were pre-patch. Now the main reason why half the adds in the dungeon are chasing you is because the tank/off-tank/control is not doing their job properly. As long as you do your job (pre-50 this means spamming Astral Seal/Sunburst then Astral Seal or Sunburst/Forgemaster's Flame) you are no longer to be held accountable for a wipe... unless you step on a red circle and die. 90% of the time a wipe is someone else's fault now.

    Pre-50 you don't need cleric to do anything. You have plenty of free pots from drops.
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    g0ld3n4c3g0ld3n4c3 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Or better, stop/reduce the the ultimate dungeon Boss skill: Infinite MOB Spam. I don't think clerics will have much trouble after that. Heck, anyone for that matter.

    Too many ads= more people purchasing the rez scrolls

    so much for free to play.
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